* A slow anti-air which moves Ramón forward a bit. Rather than trying to raw anti-air with this move in particular, it's best use to cap off your pressure as it reaches opponents trying to jump or mash out while moving Ramón forward. Whiffs on crouchers.
* A slow anti-air which moves Ramón forward a bit. Rather than trying to raw anti-air with this move in particular, it's best use to cap off your pressure as it reaches opponents trying to jump or mash out while moving Ramón forward. Whiffs on crouchers.
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===Close Standing Normals===
===Close Standing Normals===
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* Chains into A normals and st.B.
* Chains into A normals and st.B.
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====Crouch B====
====Crouch B====
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* Another low with crummy range. Chains into A normals. Useful for an option select with hcf+C.
* Another low with crummy range. Chains into A normals. Useful for an option select with hcf+C.
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* Quite slow for a poke, but has good range and is cancellable. This is a staple in both Feint Step pressure and long-ranged punishes.
* Quite slow for a poke, but has good range and is cancellable. This is a staple in both Feint Step pressure and long-ranged punishes.
Ramón is an influential luchador (Mexican pro-wrestler) who has been called the “strongest human alive”. Though he always wears a bright smile, Ramón isn’t afraid to tell people how it is.
Although small for a fighter, he toys with his opponents by utilizing his agility and skillful throws. He joins G.A.W. where he fights alongside Antonov.
The crux of Ramón's pressure lies in his Feint Step (qcb+P), which sees him stepping back and forth until the button is released. The light version unleashes a dropkick once released, which is great as a combo ender because of the hard knockdown and absurd amount of frame advantage it gives you but is a very ballsy way to end your strings given it is punishable on block. The heavy version, however, does nothing. By cancelling into it after it connects and releasing the button ASAP, Ramón gets a ton of frame advantage to play with. Think of it as a free Roman Cancel, but limited in comparison. Ramón can cancel his suite of close and crouching normals into this move, some of them even on whiff to reduce their recovery and to strengthen their utility in footsies. cl.C is fast and cr.C reaches far, and if either of them hit they lead to extremely high damage and great okizeme if Ramón has two bars to spend on his EX walldive super (qcb,hcf+K). cr.D reaches the farthest of Ramón's normals, but given it's a sweep it only leads to a soft knockdown on hit. Ramón has no need to feint cancel his lights in pressure, as his B buttons are fast and his A buttons leave him slightly plus. However, it can still be useful for safe positioning.
The high reward Ramón gets from his strikes is backed up by his command grabs as mixup tools and Feint Step's ability to set both of them up nicely. For a strike/throw game, Ramón can either run in with something fast to reset his pressure or he can use Somersault (hcf+K), his running grab, to open them up from blockstring recovery range while also catching any attempts to roll out. This can be layered a bit, as Ramón can also run in and grapple with Tiger Neck Chancery (hcf+P), which grants better okizeme than hcf+K as it grants him a safejump into a crossup depending on whether you super jump or not. He can also cancel hcf+K to bait a jump or a poke. Ramón is also notorious for his crossup ability - a decent string (e.g. cr.C df+D qcb+C) will leave him at perfect range to either crossup with j.C, go for a hop or continue pressure with j.CD. Ramón has a weak high/low game, as his fastest lows (cl.B and cr.B, both 4f) are short and don't lead to much on hit, but they can potentially be mixed with Ramón's command overhead (f+A), which is safe, or heavy Rolling Sobat (dp+K) which is more rewarding. Against Ramón's pressure, the opponent will mainly be looking for a chance to jump or reversal out. Assuming Ramón still has the advantage, hopping in with j.A, j.C or j.CD can be used to stop attempts at jumping out while maintaining his momentum. You may also use st.D or st.CD to catch them jumping out while remaining grounded. Against reversals Ramón can simply block or backdash, but while feint stepping he can also hold the button to run backward - however, it counts as a counter hit if Ramón gets touched so make sure you're spaced properly if you try it. Feint Step is a versatile pressure tool, so be flexible with how you use it and how you respond to opponents trying to counter it.
Ramón's pressure is complex and highly rewarding, but it is in neutral where he must pay a dear price. To compensate for the range of his cr.C and cr.D and for their use in extending feint-cancelled blockstrings, they are sluggish and have poor priority. This is a common trend across Ramón's set of normals, meaning he often can't afford to mash out of pressure. Ramón's only true reversals are his hcf+A, which has five frames of full invincibility, and Tiger Spin (hcb,hcb+P) which is invincible and instant. However, these are grabs, making them useless against airborne opponents. In earlier games the opponent could freely attack Ramón with meaty jump-ins due to this weakness, but in XV he now has access to Shatter Strike to properly deal with jump-ins, provided they aren't safejumps (conversely, Ramón's command grabs and crossups are perfect for dealing with the opponent's own Shatter Strikes). Outside of cr.C range, Ramón's best tool is undoubtedly his j.CD, which is similar to Hein's j.CD from XIV in terms of speed, range and priority and which can segue into his pressure if it hits. However, given Ramón's high, slow jumps it's nowhere near as good. st.C, though it doesn't lead to much without Maxmode, is fast and has good priority, so it can sometimes be used as a poke or to end blockstrings safely. Finally, Ramón's new st.CD (his st.C from XI in appearance) gives him another far-reaching anti-air if he has the space for it, but though it can be cancelled it is slow even for Ramón standards. These are the safest tools he has to play with in neutral - while he may sometimes fish for a random EX Somersault in neutral, the damage he gets from landing it is nothing compared to what you're bound to take if the opponent hops.
Ramón can work as a point character, where he won't have to worry about guard cancels interrupting his pressure, but he is much scarier with meter on hand. Though his EX moves are quite tricky to deal with in neutral, he doesn't use them much in meterburn combos, meaning he can afford to spend two bars on raw Maxmode to make his pressure even more of a threat. Mid is optimal for him, but he can be used on anchor provided you can't think of a more dependable way to end the match.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Decent hop check. Also quite good for mashing out of pressure, although most trades will not be to your advantage. Ramón is meant to run away from the opponent's offense using his extra mobility tools, but this and early jCD are crucial for helping you to stand your ground.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
A slow anti-air which moves Ramón forward a bit. Rather than trying to raw anti-air with this move in particular, it's best use to cap off your pressure as it reaches opponents trying to jump or mash out while moving Ramón forward. Whiffs on crouchers.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
A slow, but very long-ranged sweep. The best part about it is that it's cancellable, so you can cancel into Feint Step for pressure or into Bird of Paradise for an OTG if you suspect the opponent won't tech roll.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Has decent range for an aerial jab. Good priority for air-to-airing and for pressure, and can be used as a jump-in as well. Throwing this into Ramón's pressure certainly won't hurt.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Extremely potent crossup, and with decent priority too. Great for corner harassment. Just be sure to mix up your air normals, as this won't hit everywhere.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
A far-reaching poke which moves Ramón forward and is special cancellable, which sounds extremely useful, but it's just too slow most of the time, so you can be mashed out of this. If it hits then you can combo into Lv1 wall dive, but only if you Feint Step before for some reason.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
A staple poke in Ramón's arsenal for its amazing range and priority. Be very mindful about the opponent ducking under this with crB and punishing you, as it is VERY shallow.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
100
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1
1
0
+29 (HKD)
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-
0
-
Forward throw. Hard knockdown for run-up pressure.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
100
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-
1
1
0
+44 (HKD)
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-
0
-
Back throw. Hard knockdown for a hyper hop safejump.
Command Moves
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A walljump which travels far further horizontally than your regular jump, but not as high vertically. Very useful for positioning a crossup and for getting Ramón out of the corner.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
New input. A low attack which low profiles and travels deceptively far. It is quite slow, though. Super cancellable when done raw, but if you're using this in neutral it's beer to cancel into Maxmode instead for the confirm. Combo glue otherwise.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
A stubby overhead which sees some use in Ramon's pressure game when he's up close, but it is less rewarding than heavy Rolling Sobat which is slower but has better damage and range. Hard knockdown on its own. You won't be able to Hoist if you combo into this move.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
20
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Super
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-
1
-
-
0
-
The classic restand Ramón has from a variety of his moves. This leaves Ramón completely neutral on hit and at close range, but you never want to end the combo like this. The purpose of this move is to be cancelled into supers, and to have an extremely easy hit confirm to go with it.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
60
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-
-
-
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SKD (+34: Recovery Roll / +74: No Recovery Roll)
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0
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New move. Instead of a quick punch, Ramón kicks the opponent a small distance away for a soft knockdown. As Ramón often uses Rolling Sobat in combos and mixups, this is a great way to rack up damage without spending any meter in excess. As far as meterless combos go you must choose between a harder-hitting soft knockdown from Rolling Sobat into this, or a weaker hard knockdown from Feint Step or Tiger Neck Chancery.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
A
A
120
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-
5
1
36
+37 (HKD)
Unblockable
Full Body: 1 to 5 (5 Frames)
0
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C
C
120
-
-
10
1
36
+37 (HKD)
Unblockable
Throw Invincible: 1 to 9 (9 Frames), Full Body: 10 (1 Frame)
0
-
Ramón's command grab, but it has a bit more nuance here than usual. hcfA is the standard version of this move you see in other games: comes out on frame 5 and has strike invulnerability, but curiously can be thrown. hcfC, however, is slower and does not have invincibility of any sort. Its slower startup is actually optimal for tick throw setups: Ramón can do clB/crB hcfC as an option select where he either gets a low mixup on hit, or a tick throw which catches rolls every time if they defend. Both versions can end combos with a sideswitch and a hard knockdown, with perfect spacing for a hyper hop safejump.
AC
AC
160
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-
1
1
33
+69 (HKD)
Unblockable
Full Body: 1 (1 Frame)
0
-
The EX version comes out instantly, deals more damage, has better range and leaves the opponent grounded for longer, allowing for a free Bird of Paradise OTG.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
The light version is a combo tool which is somewhat safe on block given its pushback, as Ramón kicks in place. The heavy version is slower, less safe and moves Ramón forward, but it's an overhead. Both versions result in a hard knockdown. The heavy version can easily be stuffed with a jab if not timed meaty, and will receive a small punish most of the time.
The EX version of Rolling Sobat is a combo tool which results in a crumple on hit. It cannot cancel into Flying Body Attack, but it is the only way to combo into the heavy version of Rolling Sobat, which deals more damage than the light version and gives you that move anyway. This is also the only way you can get a decent combo from lights.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
40
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Hoist
17
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+9 (HKD)
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-
0
-
Ramón lunges forward for an OTG attack. This also grants a hard knockdown, but with less time to prepare a mixup. If you are doing a meterless combo with Rolling Sobat then you no longer have to end it here, as the soft knockdown you get from Hoist 2 actually results in better oki.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
B/D
B/D
100
-
-
14
24
43
+53 (HKD)
Unblockable
-
0
-
A running command grab. Like most moves of its type it has a high profile, allowing it to move through low attacks while it is active. This travels slightly faster than Ramón's actual run, so it can be spotted. On hit it causes a hard knockdown, but you don't get much okizeme from it because Ramón lunges back to midscreen on hit.
BD
BD
120
-
-
9
24
43
+53 (HKD)
Unblockable
-
0
-
The EX version travels even faster and deals more damage, making it great for annoying surprise attacks and fullscreen punishes.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
-
-
-
-
-
20
-
-
-
-
-
What makes Ramón's running grab unique is its ability to be cancelled. You can use this to bait a reaction from the opponent and get a punish rather than fully commit to the grab itself.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Ramón runs to the wall and... faceplants. This is an overhead which results in a hard knockdown, but it is extremely bad on block. Tiger Road is a series of various walldives, none of which are particularly good. The followups don't travel very far, and if you see Ramón running towards the wall you don't even need to try and anti-air any of them (although you certainly can). You can just downback and get a free punish because Cross Chop hits mid and Force of Will whiffs on crouchers, and Ramón will be lying right in front of you.
Full Body: 1 to 8 (8 Frames) / Projectile Invincibile until wall cling
0
-
Ramón runs to the wall way faster and the followups are not only much better at tracking the opponent but also deal more damage. In this case, the EX faceplant will actually track the opponent's position. The EX run itself is fully invincible to fireballs.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
-
-
-
17 (Earliest Cancel from neutral)
4
9
+8
+6
-
-
-
Like Somersault, Ramón can cancel the running portion of Tiger Road before he does anything else. This will automatically play out if Ramón fails to reach the wall.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
-
-
-
17 (Earliest Cancel from neutral)
4
9
+8
+6
-
-
-
A backflip which is slow and deals no damage. Only do this if an fireball is headed your way and you can't reach the wall in time, as you will be able to scale it. This move is useless otherwise.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
An air-to-air strike. Both this and Force of Will track the opponent's position, but this does a better job at actually reaching them. Regardless, since both calculate where Ramón will go based on where he is at the split second he touches the wall, they can be both avoided by backdashing or super jumping away from them. Or by downbacking, as mentioned earlier, but this move deals chip damage if you're worried about that.
The EX version does a better job at tracking the opponent and deals more damage, but it still hits mid, causes a soft knockdown and is far less safe than raw EX Tiger Road. However, the tradeoff is that move is fully invincible to projectiles, allowing you to fly through even super fireballs.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
A/C
A/C
120
-
Hoist
32 (Back at corner) to 58 (Full Screen Run)
20
46
+34 (HKD)
Unblockable
-
0
-
The most rewarding of the Tiger Road followups, and possibly the most annoying knowledge check Ramón has up his sleeve, even though it's not good. Reason being, you can crouch this and have it miss every time, then punish Ramón dearly. What is appealing about this move is that it is an unblockable (NB: it is a strike, which means you can roll through it; it is an unblockable hitgrab as opposed to actually being a throw) and it leads to Hoist followups for even more damage, which is why it sometimes sees use as an air-to-air.
AC
AC
160
-
Hoist
23 (Back at corner) to 49 (Full Screen Run)
23
47
+34 (HKD)
Unblockable
-
0
-
The EX version can hit crouchers and goes fullscreen, making it much more effective as a panic move. Be mindful that it can miss even on some standing opponents if they are too close to the wall, considering the height at which Ramón starts to fly. Ideally you should use this move as an air-to-air only.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Slightly easier input than last game. A tricky backflip which reaches high up, hits as an overhead and can sometimes crossup. It can also hit as an OTG once Ramón hits the ground, but setups for this are limited. This move is insanely slow, so there's a reason why its input is out of the way with what you're usually doing with Ramón. The Hoists do not work if this move hits OTG.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
qcb+A is a dropkick which results in good corner carry while granting a hard knockdown and a guaranteed Bird of Paradise in the corner. It is unsafe, and using it as a read in neutral will most likely get you killed.
C
C
-
-
-
-
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10 / 190 (Max button hold)
-
-
-
-
-
qcb+C is the most important move in Ramón's arsenal, and what glues the entire character together. It is a feint which effectively gives Ramón free Roman Cancels on all of his cancellable normals, as well as a way to run away and retain spacing for footsies. This can also be used to space for crossups and other mixup options during pressure. On its own it can be used as a backwards run of sorts, giving you much more precision than a backdash but also leaving you in counter hit state throughout, and you don't build meter. Your mastery of Ramón hinges entirely on your mastery of this move.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
A/C
A/C
250
-
-
3
3
61
+30 (HKD)
Unblockable
Full Body: 1 to 3 (3 Frames)
0
-
An instant command grab. Mostly invalidated by EX Tiger Neck Chancery, as this move does not grant much in the way of okizeme, but that move does while also being much more ergonomic as a quick punish tool. Being a super this does deal more damage though, and it is the cheapest way to end a super cancel combo.
AC
AC
400 (100+100+200)
-
-
1
3
56
+31 (HKD)
Unblockable
Full Body: 1 to 3 (3 Frames)
0
-
The EX version deals more damage but you still don't get oki from it.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
Ramón leaps onto the wall behind him and dives quickly towards the opponent for a ranbu. The regular version sees this run happen in real time, making this move terrible for both combos and reversals - the only realistic ways you can land this move are if you convert from st.CD's wall splat or from anti-air Shatter Strike.
The EX version is the real moneymaker. Ramón's run happens during the super freeze, meaning he touches the wall instantly, and its high priority warrants its use as a ghetto reversal. This move deals extremely high damage and grants amazing okizeme (enough to land a guaranteed Bird of Paradise in the corner), but it's been buffed even more in that you can now cancel the very last hit into Climax, rather than during the part where he points his fingers forward, for maximum damage.
Guard(1) means only the first hit has to be blocked that way, (2) the second, No bracket means the entire move has to be blocked said way.How this attack has to be blocked. Throws and unblockables will stay empty.
Cancel(1) means only the first hit is cancelable, (2) the second, (x~y) every hit from x to y, No bracket means the entire move is.Whether this move is special or super cancelable. If neither, will stay empty.
StartupNumber of frames for the move to become active, first active frame included.
Activex, (y), z means the move has two hits. The 1st is active for x frames Followed by a y frame gap Then the 2nd is active for z frames.Number of frames the move is active, meaning able to connect, for.
RecoveryNumber of frames past its active frames for the move to end and the character to recover unless the move is canceled.
Hit Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip. SKD is soft knockdown, HKD is hard.After the move hits, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Block Advantagex ~ y means the move has different frame advantage depending on range. x when done point-blank. y on the tip.After the move is blocked, number of frames the character recovers before (+) or after (-) the opponent.
Invulnerability(Startup) means the move is invincible until after its 1st active frame. (Startup - 1) means it's invincible until its 1st active frame. Throw and/or Hit Invincibility the move has. (frames)_TYPE_(Location). Startup or Active may be used to note the frame range.
StunAmount of stun damage a move inflicts. This will not factor in proration if applicable
Guard DamageDamage done to the guard bar regardless of multipliers
450 Min: 225
-
-
9
20
55
+20 (HKD)
Unblockable
Full Body: 1 to 12 (12 Frames), Projectile Invincibility: 13 to 28 (16 frames)
0
-
Ramón's Climax is a running grab which has generous amounts on invincibility, and concentrates all its damage in just two hits. You only want to save this for combos where it will kill, as you get no advantage from it and the positioning afterwards is dreadful for Ramón.
Misc
After a Feint Step, you are +3 on block if you cancelled any heavy attack or Drop Kick, but +7 if you cancelled from st.CD. Given the latter's 20f startup, it is especially difficult to land without getting mashed out of. As being +3 isn't much to work with, you will have to be aware of opponents mashing jabs, as they will stuff your attempts at frame trapping with anything slow such as cr.C. You will be minus if you Feint Cancel a light attack, but doing so is still useful strictly for positioning.