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! Combo !! Damage !! Notes
! Combo !! Damage !! Notes
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| '''2A > 2B''' || 39 || His only decent light starter, you actually only press 2A as 623BD will do the 2B for you.
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| 2A > 5A || 48 || His lights suck as starters.
| 2A > 5A || 48 || His lights suck as starters.
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| '''cl.5D > 3D''' || 127 || His most damaging grounded starter.
| '''cl.5D > 3D''' || 127 || His most damaging grounded starter.
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| cl.5C > 3D || 117 || His most REALIABLE grounded starter.
| cl.5C > 3D || 117 || His most reliable grounded starter.
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| j.C > cl.5C > 3D || 181 || Most reliable jump in, crosses up too.
| j.C > cl.5C > 3D || 181 || Most reliable jump in, crosses up too.
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| 214AC (counter) || 162 || Combos into 623D anywhere, just as risky as 214A.
| 214AC (counter) || 162 || Combos into 623D anywhere, just as risky as 214A.
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| 214K , AB || 65 || Very versatile utility, 214BD can be used as a reversal and all versions can be frame traps on block.
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==Combos==
==Combos==
'''General Notes'''
* Any combo which includes dp+BD can be combo'd into from cr.B > cr.A > cr.A/cr.B as well as any close heavy starter.
* cl.D deals ten points more damage than cl.C and cr.C, but it is much slower than cl.C and has worse range than cr.C, making its usage situational.
* Unlike command normal overheads, dp+D is still treated as an overhead even when it is used in combos, and thus XV's damage scaling rules for overheads will apply. Even if you can link into df+D, for example after df+BD, it is preferable to go for df+B instead because you will lose plenty of damage otherwise.
===Rush Auto Combo===
===Rush Auto Combo===
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! Combo!! Damage !! Meter cost !! notes
! Combo!! Damage !! Meter cost !! notes
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| cl.A > A > A > B || 172 || 0 || Rush combo ending in a special move.
| cl.A > A > A > B || 172 || 0 || Rush combo ending in a special move (41236A), cannot be followed up with a super.
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| cl.A > A > A > C || 223 || 1 || Rush combo ending in a super.
| cl.A > A > A > C || 223 || 1 || Rush combo ending in a super (6321463214P).
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| cl.A > A > A > D || 347 || 2 || Rush combo ending in a Max super.
| cl.A > A > A > D || 347 || 2 || Rush combo ending in a Max super (6321463214AC).
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| cl.A > A > A > A || 452 || 3 || Rush combo ending in a Climax super.
| cl.A > A > A > A || 452 || 3 || Rush combo ending in a Climax super.
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! Combo!! Damage !! Stun !! Meter cost !! Meter Gain !! Location !! notes
! Combo!! Damage !! Stun !! Meter cost !! Meter Gain !! Location !! notes
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| c.B/2B > 41236C || 144 || || 0 || || Anywhere || Doubles as a tick throw on block, given 41236C's slower startup. You can use 41236A instead for a more reliable combo.
| cl.5B > cl.5A > 41236A || 161 || 60 || 0 || .2 || Anywhere || The only true light confirm without any meter, you have to be pretty close still.
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| 2B > Rush Combo > 41236A || 177 || 45 || 0 || .25 || Anywhere || I think this shows how bad the light confirms are, this is all you'll get from 2B meterless.
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| c.B/2B > Rush Auto Combo || 192 || || 0 || || Anywhere || Yes, he's one of those characters.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623B > 623K > 22C || 267 || 170 || 0 || .3 || Anywhere || His BNB with the more damaging ender.
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| c.C/2C > 3D > 236A || 207 || || 0 || || Anywhere || Forward hard knockdown.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623B > 623K > 22A || 239 || 170 || 0 || .27 || Anywhere || His BNB with a reset ender, be careful what you do with this.
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| c.C/2C > 3D > 41236A/C || 225 || || 0 || || Anywhere || Backward hard knockdown.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623B > 623K > 22C > cl.5C > 214C || 316 || 240 || 0 || .4 || Corner || His Corner BNB, with a reset at the end that, can swap 214C with 22AC for another reset or chip damage, whilst also safe on block.
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| c.C/2C > 3D > 623B~623K > 22C || 257 || || 0 || || Anywhere || His most-damaging meterless combo, but it's a soft knockdown.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 214A || 217 || 170 || 0 || .25 || Anywhere || For when you're too far away to do 623B, HKD.
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| c.C/2C > 3D > 214A > 22AC || 241 || || 0 || || Corner || 214A gives you generous amounts of corner carry, so you'll have an opportunity to land an inescapable Bird of Paradise OTG more often than you'd think.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 214A > 22AC || 251 || 170 || 0 || .35 || Near Corner || 214A leads into OTG 22AC when near the corner.
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|}
===EX===
===.5 Bar===
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! Combo!! Damage !! Stun !! Meter cost !! Meter Gain !! Location !! notes
! Combo!! Damage !! Stun !! Meter cost !! Meter Gain !! Location !! notes
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| 2B > 2A > 623BD, 214A || 228 || || || || Anywhere || Low starter, hard knockdown. Also works from c.C > 3D.
| '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 623K > 22C || 274 || 115 || .5 || .25 || Anywhere || Finally, a proper light starter, after the 2A just do 623BD, the 2B will come out on its own as a result of it.
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| cl.5B > '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 623K > 22A || 262 || 145 || .5 || .25 || Anywhere || Standing light link with the mix up ender.
| ... > 623BD, 623B~623K > 22C || 275 || || || || Anywhere || Low starter, soft knockdown. Also works from c.C > 3D.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 623K > 22C || 362 || 190 || .5 || .35 || Anywhere || Same as the light starter just better.
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| ... > 41236AC, 22AC || || || || || Anywhere || Backward hard knockdown. The Bird of Paradise OTG is guaranteed.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623B > 623K > 22A > 41236AC > 22AC || 377 || 170 || .5 || .4 || Anywhere || His best .5 bar anywhere combo, can swap the OTG for a safe jump set up but even with it you can still do whatever you want after.
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| ... > 623BD, 214A, 22AC || || || || || Corner || Nearly the same amount of damage as the midscreen soft knockdown ender and with much better oki.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 66 > 214K , AB > 623B > 623K > 22C > cl.5C > 214C || 438 || 300 || .5 || .49 || Corner || Same as light but due to pushback you need to do a micro walk after 623BD (very micro).
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===1 Bar===
===1 Bar===
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! Combo!! Damage !! Stun !! Meter cost !! Meter Gain !! Location !! notes
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| ... > 236CD, 623B~623K > 22C || 232 (raw 236CD) || || 1 || 0.5 || Anywhere || Shatter Strike combo. You get meter back to use dp+BD, but doing this after Shatter Strike will automatically end the combo.
| '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 623K > 22A > 41236AC > 22AC || 375 || 115 || 1 || .3 || Anywhere || The good part about light starters is they stop falling behind the heavy ones once you have a bar.
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| '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 214K , AB > 623B > 623K > 22A > 41236AC > 22AC || 401 || 165 || 1 || .35 || Corner || Corner only variant, you will lose the corner unless you do a cross up after the combo.
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| '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 66 > 214K , AB > 214AC || 288 || 105 || 1 || .1 || Anywhere || Tricky combo that rewards you with a HKD.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 66 > 214K , AB > 214AC || 376 || 170 || 1 || .2 || Anywhere || Same as light but more damage.
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| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 66 > 214K , AB > 214AC > 22AC || 406 || 170 || 1 || .2 || Near Corner || OTG extends this combo once more.
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| c.C/2C > 3D > 6321463214A/C || 279 || || 1 || || Anywhere || Leaves the opponent behind you but way too far out to get pressure from it. Using EX Tiger Neck Chancery gives you better damage and okizeme for half the price, so do that instead.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 214K , AB > 623B > 623K > 22A > 41236AC > 22AC || 489 || 230 || 1 || .47 || Corner || Like the light variant, will lose you the corner.
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| ... > 3D > 623B~623K > 22A > 6321463214A || 355 || || 1 || || Anywhere || Only practical use for Tiger Spin over his other grabs is for super cancels such as this one.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623B > 2141236K || 345 || 170 || 1 || .25 || Anywhere || Super ender, but not the best use of 1 bar from heavies.
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| CD > 214C, 2141236B/D || 235 || || 1 || || Midscreen || Grounded wall splat combo. The combo won't work if you don't feint cancel stCD for whatever reason. The super will fail to land in the corner.
| ... > 623BD, 623B~623K > 22A > 6321463214A || 429 (c.C > 3D) || || 1.5 || || Anywhere || Minor damage improvement if you need to kill.
| '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 2141236K || 349 || 115 || 1.5 || .2 || Anywhere || Extended Super combo but again, damage not fully worth it.
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| ... > 236CD, 623B~623K > 22A > 6321463214A || 344 (raw 236CD) || || 1.5 || || Anywhere || Shatter Strike combo. If it hits anti-air you can still land the dp+B, but you have to time it.
| '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 2141236K > 22AC || 379 || 115 || 1.5 || .25 || Near Corner || OTG doing its best to save this combo.
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| '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623BD > 214BD , AB > 623B > 623K > 22C > cl.5C > 214C || 419 || 175 || 1.5 || .4 || Corner || His corner BNB, '''Note that this will whiff on characters like Kula, Yuri and Chris due to their smaller sizes.'''
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| '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623BD > 214BD , AB > cl.5D > 214C || 326 || 125 || 1.5 || .15 || Corner || Use this against the smaller characters, results in a reset too.
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| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 2141236K || 437 || 190 || 1.5 || .25 || Anywhere || Like the light but a bit beefier.
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| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 2141236K > 22AC || 467 || 190 || 1.5 || .25 || Midscreen || OTG do what an OTG do.
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| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 623BD > 214BD , AB > 623B > 623K > 22C > cl.5C > 214C || 507 || 240 || 1.5 || .48 || Corner || Corner BNB again, and again it whiffs on smaller characters.
! Combo!! Damage !! Stun !! Meter cost !! Meter Gain !! Location !! notes
! Combo!! Damage !! Stun !! Meter cost !! Meter Gain !! Location !! notes
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| c.C/2C > 3D > 623B~623K > 22A > 2141236BD || 467 || || 2 || || Anywhere || This super deals more damage than EX Tiger Spin and gives much better corner carry and okizeme.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623B > 2141236BD || 473 || 170 || 2 || .25 || Anywhere || Much like the war in Ba Sing Se, there is no 2 Bar Light starters.
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| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623B > 2141236BD > 22AC || 505 || 170 || 2 || .26 || Midscreen || But much like death and taxes there is always the OTG extension.
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| '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623BD > 214BD , AB > 623B > 623K > 22A > 41236AC > 22AC || 466 || 105 || 2 || .35 || Corner || Ok I lied there is this, but it still doesn't work on short characters and you lose the corner.
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| ... > 236CD > 623B~623K > 22A > 2141236BD || 472 (raw 236CD) || || 2 || || Anywhere || Shatter Strike combo. If it hits anti-air you can still land the dp+B, but you have to time it.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 623BD > 214BD , AB > 623B > 623K > 22A > 41236AC > 22AC || 554 || 180 || 2 || .35 || Corner || Same as the light variant but more damage and bar.
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| CD > 214C, 2141236BD || 363 || || 2 || || Anywhere || More expensive version of the wall splat combo above.
| '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 2141236BD || 469 || 115 || 2.5 || .2 || Anywhere || Now the super cancel is worth it.
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| ... > 2141236BD, 22AC || || || 2 || || Corner || Free Bird of Paradise OTG in the corner.
Ramón can turn any of his 1.5 bar combos into 2.5 bar combos by using 2141236BD instead of the non-EX version.
===3 Bars===
===3 Bars===
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| ... > 623B > 2141236CD || || || 3 || || Anywhere || Being a two-hit Climax, Hyper Sonic • Ramón is hit hard by damage scaling. Cancelling Rolling Sobat itself is optimal for Climax combos, as the Hoist sequence will scale it down too much. This doesn't affect EX Volando, as its damage is spread across many hits and it has a tendency to miss when cancelled into from raw Rolling Sobat anyway.
| '''Light Starter''' > BC > cl.5D > 3D > 623B > 2141236K > CLIMAX || 577 || 215 || 3 || .05 || Anywhere || Basic Quick Max combo, nothing special. Works with 1250 and 1500 Max Gauge (Mid and Anchor).
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| 236CD > 2141236B/D > 6321463214AC || 527 || || 3 || 0.5 || Back to Corner || Very situational anti-air Shatter Strike combo which only works if your back is near the wall. Worth noting because this is the only feasible way for Ramón to land an Advanced Cancel, unless you actually go for qcb,hcf+B/D raw for whatever reason.
| '''Heavy Starter''' > BC > cl.5D > 3D > 623B > 2141236K > CLIMAX || 665 || 280 || 3 || .15 || Anywhere || Same as light variant but beefier.
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| ... > f.B/3D > BC > c.C/2C > 3D > 623B > 2141236BD > 2141236CD || || || || || Anywhere || You're super cancelling Rolling Sobat itself because otherwise you won't have enough time to cancel into Climax, and even if you did the combo would be hit harder by damage scaling.
| '''Light Starter''' > BC > cl.5D > 3D > 623B > 2141236BD > CLIMAX || 675 || 215 || 4 || .05 || Anywhere || Same as the 3 bar version but with more damage. Works with 1250 and 1500 Max Gauge (Mid and Anchor).
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| '''Heavy Starter''' > BC > cl.5D > 3D > 623B > 2141236BD > CLIMAX || 763 || 280 || 4 || .15 || Anywhere || Same as light variant but stronger.
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| '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 214K , AB > 623B > 2141236K > CLIMAX || 692 || 165 || 4.5 || .2 || Corner || Enough OTG extensions, time for the butt extension.
| BC > '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623BD > 214BD , AB > 623B > 2141236K > CLIMAX || 773 || 105 || 3 || .2 || Corner || Use to punish panic DPs, unless its Kula, Yuri or Chris as this still doesn't work on short characters..
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| BC > '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 2141236K > CLIMAX || 750 || 190 || 3 || .25 || Anywhere || Make them pay for a mistake.
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| BC > '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 623BD > 214BD , AB > 623B > 2141236K > CLIMAX || 883 || 170 || 3 || .3 || Corner || Still not gremlin proof but will make your opponent cry.
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| BC > '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 2141236BD > CLIMAX || 832 || 125 || 4 || .15 || Anywhere || More bar.
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| BC > '''Light Starter''' > 623BD > 623BD > 214BD , AB > 623B > 2141236BD > CLIMAX || 878 || 105 || 4 || .2 || Corner || Still not gremlin proof.
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| BC > '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 623D > 2141236BD > CLIMAX || 942 || 190 || 4 || .25 || Anywhere || MAKE THEM PAY.
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| BC > '''Heavy Starter''' > 623BD > 623BD > 214BD , AB > 623B > 2141236BD > CLIMAX || 988 || 170 || 4 || .3 || Corner || The gremlins may win this time, but with a jump in this is a ToD.
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| BC > 214A (counter) > 623BD > 214BD , AB > 623B > 2141236K > CLIMAX || 880 || 120 || 3 || .25 || Corner || This is not very practical but it does a lot...If only it hit short characters.
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| BC > 214A (counter) > 623BD > 214BD , AB > 623B > 2141236BD > CLIMAX || 1000 || 120 || 4 || .25 || Corner || Just barely a ToD and still the gremlins laugh, for they can't be hit by it.
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===Other Starters===
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| CD > 41236K(X) , AB > 623B > 623K > 22C || 182 || 160 || 0 || .3 || Anywhere || Basic CD combos using 41236K to get near if you're not near the corner.
| 214A (counter) > 623B > 623K > 22C > cl.5C > 214C || 325 || 210 || 0 || .45 || Corner || Very niche starter but is very useful when it happens.
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| 214A (counter) > 623BD > 214BD , AB > 623B > 22C > cl.5C > 214C || 455 || 210 || 1 || .5 || Corner || Extended version that pays back 50% of the bar spent. Wont work on small characters.
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| 214A (counter) > 623B > 2141236BD > 22AC || 526 || 130 || 2 || .45 || Corner || Super cancel version with OTG.
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| 214K , AB > f.5C > 623BD > 623D > 623K > 22A > 41236AC > 22AC || 467 || 210 || 1 || .45 || Anywhere || Can be done off of 214BD too.
| 214K , AB > f.5C > BC > cl.5D > 3D > 2141236BD > CLIMAX || 767 || 300 || 4 || .35 || Anywhere|| Works as a Quick Max starter.
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==External Links==
==External Links==
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Use the corresponding starter(s) from the 'Starters' section of this page.
>
Cancel the previous move into the following move. If preceded by a move in brackets, must cancel the start of the preceding move (AKA a 'Kara Cancel').
,
Link the previous move into the following move.
(X)
A move in brackets must whiff (not hit). Can also mean the move must be Kara Canceled.
~
Cancel the previous special into the following special.
cl.
Close to opponent.
f.
Far from opponent.
j.
Jumping move.
AA
Anti-air. Hit the opponent while they're mid-air.
[X]
Hold input briefly.
P & K
P and K each denote "Any Punch (A or C)" and "Any Kick (B or D)" respectively.
X/Y
Do either X move or Y move in a combo (Both final damage & stun values will be shown).
X * N {X} * N
Repeat 'X' input 'N' amount of times. Multiple inputs will be bundled into "{}".
Starters
Keep in mind: The combos in the "Combos" section have been tested using the first starter in each category (the combos in Bold).
Light Starters
Combo
Damage
Notes
2A > 2B
39
His only decent light starter, you actually only press 2A as 623BD will do the 2B for you.
2A > 5A
48
His lights suck as starters.
5B > 5A
53
No like, they really suck.
Heavy Starters
Combo
Damage
Notes
cl.5D > 3D
127
His most damaging grounded starter.
cl.5C > 3D
117
His most reliable grounded starter.
j.C > cl.5C > 3D
181
Most reliable jump in, crosses up too.
j.C > cl.5D > 3D
191
More damage but doesn't cross up.
2C > 3D
117
Poke confirm.
f.5C
70
Faster poke that only links into specials, great as an option select on jump ins if they roll away.
2D(X) > 3D
50
Allows you to use cancel 3D as a poke, thanks to 2D being whiff cancelable.
Other Starters
Combo
Damage
Notes
CD
75
Slow but cancelable.
236CD
75
Raw Shatter does not combo into 3D.
214A (counter)
125
Combos into 623B/BD in the corner, it's as risky as it gets.
214AC (counter)
162
Combos into 623D anywhere, just as risky as 214A.
214K , AB
65
Very versatile utility, 214BD can be used as a reversal and all versions can be frame traps on block.
Combos
Rush Auto Combo
Combo
Damage
Meter cost
notes
cl.A > A > A > B
172
0
Rush combo ending in a special move (41236A), cannot be followed up with a super.
cl.A > A > A > C
223
1
Rush combo ending in a super (6321463214P).
cl.A > A > A > D
347
2
Rush combo ending in a Max super (6321463214AC).
cl.A > A > A > A
452
3
Rush combo ending in a Climax super.
Meterless
Combo
Damage
Stun
Meter cost
Meter Gain
Location
notes
cl.5B > cl.5A > 41236A
161
60
0
.2
Anywhere
The only true light confirm without any meter, you have to be pretty close still.
2B > Rush Combo > 41236A
177
45
0
.25
Anywhere
I think this shows how bad the light confirms are, this is all you'll get from 2B meterless.
Heavy Starter > 623B > 623K > 22C
267
170
0
.3
Anywhere
His BNB with the more damaging ender.
Heavy Starter > 623B > 623K > 22A
239
170
0
.27
Anywhere
His BNB with a reset ender, be careful what you do with this.
Heavy Starter > 623B > 623K > 22C > cl.5C > 214C
316
240
0
.4
Corner
His Corner BNB, with a reset at the end that, can swap 214C with 22AC for another reset or chip damage, whilst also safe on block.
Heavy Starter > 214A
217
170
0
.25
Anywhere
For when you're too far away to do 623B, HKD.
Heavy Starter > 214A > 22AC
251
170
0
.35
Near Corner
214A leads into OTG 22AC when near the corner.
.5 Bar
Combo
Damage
Stun
Meter cost
Meter Gain
Location
notes
Light Starter > 623BD > 623D > 623K > 22C
274
115
.5
.25
Anywhere
Finally, a proper light starter, after the 2A just do 623BD, the 2B will come out on its own as a result of it.
