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===Slash Only===
===Slash Only===
-'''Resshin Zan''' - 421S
{{MoveData
*'''Description''' - Resshin Zan is a gimmicky overhead special. All versions startup fast and knock down, with each slash button determining how far Haohmaru leaps. Spacing this so only the tip hits on block makes it somewhat safe.
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|description=Resshin Zan is a gimmicky overhead special. All versions startup fast and knock down, with each slash button determining how far Haohmaru leaps. Spacing this so only the tip hits on block makes it somewhat safe.
}}
}}


-'''Tenha Fujinzan''' - 4632AB ''(WFT)''
 
*'''Description''' - Tenha Fujinzan is a slightly below average WFT. Deals alright damage, and can be used as a reversal thanks to invincibility and quick startup. Due to not catching on hit, it doesn’t properly juggle airborne opponents and can be exploded out of, leaving Haohmaru with empty POW.
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|deflect=No
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|cancel=No
|unarmed=No
|description=Tenha Fujinzan is a slightly below average WFT. Deals alright damage, and can be used as a reversal thanks to invincibility and quick startup. Due to not catching on hit, it doesn’t properly juggle airborne opponents and can be exploded out of, leaving Haohmaru with empty POW.
}}
}}


===Bust Only===
===Bust Only===

Revision as of 07:56, 28 May 2023

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Overview

Haohmaru, the drunk and lovable protagonist of the series is back, and he’s coming back swinging. While both Techniques lost some of their stronger gimmicks in the shift from SS3 to SS4, Haohmaru is still both an honest midrange character and also a complete and total gorilla.

Slash

Slash, sadly, lost almost everything that gave him an identity apart from Bust in SamSho 4. He lost his air specials and Zankousen from SamSho 3, and gained hardly anything new to make up for it. This means his gameplay is basic Haohmaru stuff with relatively little spice. He’s got everything he needs to succeed, and is absolutely one of the stronger characters, but Bust has all of that combined with way better offensive AND defensive presence.

Bust

Bust’s moveset is kept mostly intact, with nerfs across the board. He’s not going to be turning fireballs into infinites this time, but his tools and combos remain some of the most potent in the entire game. In spite of the toning down Gou Ha received, it still manages to open up an infinite that can be done regardless of screen position. Even if he didn’t have everything better by default in this Technique, Gou Ha alone would still render Bust the superior pick.

Normals

Far Slashes

f5A
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
8(9) - - - - - Yes Mid Yes No

A somewhat fast swing with stubby range.


f5B
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
17-15(20-18) - - - - - Yes Mid Yes No

A somewhat slow, but decent-range poke.


f5C
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
39(46) - - - - - Yes Mid No No

A slow, but long-range attack. Longer range and new visual effects during Rage.


f2A
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
8(9) - - - - - No Mid Yes No

Slower version of f5A, but crouching.


f2B
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
17(22) - - - - - Yes Mid Yes No

Similar to f2A, but does more damage.


f2C
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
36,23(42,27) - - - - - Yes Mid No No

A somewhat slow upwards swing. Works as an anti air.

Near Slashes

n5A
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
8(9) - - - - - No Mid Yes No

A quick jab, his fastest normal by far.


n5B
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
17(20) - - - - - Yes Mid Yes No

A quick slash that's useful for combos.


n5C
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
36(42) - - - - - Yes Mid No No

A slow downward swing. noticeably faster than f5C.


n2A
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
8(9) - - - - - No Mid Yes No

Same as n5A, only crouching.


n2B
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
19(22) - - - - - No Mid Yes No

Slower version of n2A that can combo into things like n5B.


n2C
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
36,23(42,27) - - - - - Yes Mid No No

Identical to f2C

Kicks

5D
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
8(9) - - - - - No Mid No Both

A slow upward kick. Makes for an okay anti-air.


6D
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
3(4) - - - - - No Low No Both

A low kick that does even less damage than 5D.


2D
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
4(5) - - - - - No Low No Both

A low kick that is slightly faster, and does slightly more damage than 6D.


3D
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
8(9) - - - - - - Low No Both

Haohmaru's Sweep. Slides forward and knocks down. You can get a light pursuit afterwards.

Jumping Normals

jA
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
8(9) - - - - - No High Landing No

Jumping version of f5A. Makes for a good air-to-air.


jB
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
17(20) - - - - - No High Landing No

A slower version of jA that does more damage.


jC
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
25(29) - - - - - No High Landing No

An airborne downward swing. Makes for a decent air-to-air, but it has less range than j.A and j.B.


jD
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
8(9) - - - - - No High Landing Both

A jumping Kick that has less range than j.A and j.B.


Dashing Normals

66A
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
13(16) - - - - - No Mid No No

A running jab.


66B
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
17(21) - - - - - Yes Mid No No

Basically c.5B, but you can't special cancel it.


66C
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
21(25) - - - - - Yes Mid No No

A somewhat fast upward swing. Could potentially work as an anti-air. Knocks down on hit.


66D
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
5(6) - - - - - No Low No Both

A running version of 3D that does less damage.

Unarmed Normals

u5S
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
3(4) - - - - - No Mid No Yes

A stubby little punch that does pitiful damage and is unsafe.


u2S
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
3(4) - - - - - No Mid No Yes

A crouching version of u.5S that's about just as unsafe.


juS
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
15(19) - - - - - No High Landing Yes

A jumping version of u5S.


u66S
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
5(7) - - - - - No Mid No Yes

A faster version of u5S that does slightly more damage.

Special Moves

Both

-Senpu Retsuzan - 236S

  • Description - Senpu Retsuzan is your standard fireball, with each slash button determining how far it flies and increasing recovery. You can follow up on it with a heavy pursuit, leading to fair damage for a low risk fireball.
Senpu Retsuzan
236S
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
8+18(9+18) - - - - - No Mid No No

Senpu Retsuzan is your standard fireball, with each slash button determining how far it flies and increasing recovery. You can follow up on it with a heavy pursuit, leading to fair damage for a low risk fireball. While Both Haohmarus have this move, Bust Haohmaru's version puts you an a juggle state while Slash Haohmaru's does not.


Kogetsu Zan
623S
Version Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
A 23+3(27+1*4) - - - - - Yes Mid No No
Version Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
B 23+1+3(27+1*4) - - - - - Yes Mid No No
Version Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
C 23+1+1+8(27+1*4) - - - - - Yes Mid No No

Kogetsu Zan is your DP, and a fine one at that. Effective as an anti-air, reversal, and your main combo tool. When raged, it does more hits+damage and allows you to land a heavy pursuit if your opponent is near the corner.


Shippu Kogetsu Zan
623S While Running
Version Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
A 17+6+8(21) - - - - - Yes Mid No No
Version Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
B 17+1*3+8(21) - - - - - Yes Mid No No
Version Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
C 17+1*4+8(21) - - - - - Yes Mid No No

This is an alternate version of Kogetsu Zan that moves forward during the attack and inflicts a longer knockdown. The light version is the best of the bunch, as it nets you a free heavy pursuit afterwards.

This move does NOT function while Raged. It does 1 hit and doesn't knock down. Try not to use it during Rage.

Slash Only

Resshin Zan
421S
Version Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
A [3*2]+17([4*2]+21) - - - - - No High No No
Version Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
B [3*2]+23([4*2]+27) - - - - - No High No No
Version Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
C [3*2]+25([4*2]+29) - - - - - No High No No

Resshin Zan is a gimmicky overhead special. All versions startup fast and knock down, with each slash button determining how far Haohmaru leaps. Spacing this so only the tip hits on block makes it somewhat safe.


Tenha Fujinzan (WFT)
4632AB
Damage(Rage) Chip Damage (Rage) Startup Active Recovery Hit Adv Block Adv Deflect Guard Cancel Unarmed
6+[4*2]+2+4+2+[6*2]+7 - - - - - No Mid No No

Tenha Fujinzan is a slightly below average WFT. Deals alright damage, and can be used as a reversal thanks to invincibility and quick startup. Due to not catching on hit, it doesn’t properly juggle airborne opponents and can be exploded out of, leaving Haohmaru with empty POW.

Bust Only

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