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==Movelist== | ==Movelist== | ||
== | '''Throws''' | ||
Zujou Sashi - close, [[image:bk.gif]] / [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:c.gif]] | |||
Geketsu Zuki - close, [[image:bk.gif]] / [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:d.gif]] | |||
'''Command Moves''' | |||
Geri Toorima - [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] | |||
'''Special Moves''' | |||
Tatsumaki Zan Shippuu - charge [[image:dn.gif]] ~ [[image:up.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]] | |||
Hishou Kyaku - in air, [[image:qcf.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] / [[image:d.gif]] | |||
Hienzan - [[image:dp.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] / [[image:d.gif]] | |||
Hishou Kuuretsu Zan - charge [[image:dn.gif]] ~ [[image:up.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] / [[image:d.gif]] | |||
:Houkou Tenkan - any direction + button (up to three times) | |||
Hien Senpuu Zash - charge [[image:bk.gif]] ~ [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]] | |||
:Houkou Tenkan - any direction + button (up to three times) | |||
Kaiten Hien Zan - [[image:qcb.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]] | |||
:Kishuu Hien Zuki - [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]] | |||
'''Desperation Moves''' | |||
Shin! Chouzetsu Tatsumaki Shinkuuzan - [[image:hcb.gif]][[image:hcb.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]] | |||
Hou'ou Kyaku - [[image:qcf.gif]][[image:df.gif]][[image:qcb.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] / [[image:d.gif]] | |||
Shin! Chouzetsu Rinnekoro Totsuha - in air, [[image:qcf.gif]][[image:qcf.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]] | |||
'''Super Desperation Move''' | |||
Hou'ou Kyaku - [[image:qcf.gif]][[image:df.gif]][[image:qcb.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]][[image:d.gif]] | |||
'''Hidden Super Desperation Move''' | |||
Shakushi - in air, [[image:hcf.gif]][[image:hcf.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]][[image:c.gif]] | |||
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==Quick Starter Combo Reference== | |||
Input st.A, qcf,hcb+K/BD as qcf, st.A, qcb+K/BD | |||
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| '''0 Bar''' | |||
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Anywhere<br/> | |||
Low, Corner<br/> | |||
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cr.C, qcb+A > A = 19%<br/> | |||
(jump-in), cr.B, cr.A, d~u+C = 19%<br/> | |||
|- | |||
| '''1 Bar''' | |||
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Low<br/> | |||
Anywhere<br/> | |||
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cr.Bx1~2, st.A, qcf,hcb+K = 29%<br/> | |||
(jump-in), cr.B, st.A, qcf,hcb+K = 27%<br/> | |||
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| '''3 Bar''' | |||
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Low<br/> | |||
Anywhere<br/> | |||
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cr.Bx1~2, st.A, qcf,hcb+BD = 40%<br/> | |||
(jump-in), cr.B, st.A, qcf,hcb+BD = 38%<br/> | |||
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==Normals== | |||
'''Close''' | '''Close''' | ||
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* j. CD is a cancel-able drop kick that can be used air-to-air or from air-to-ground | * j. CD is a cancel-able drop kick that can be used air-to-air or from air-to-ground | ||
== Throws == | ==Throws== | ||
'''Head Jabber [Zujou Sashi]''' - close, (b/f + C) | '''Head Jabber [Zujou Sashi]''' - close, (b/f + C) | ||
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* Soft knockdown | * Soft knockdown | ||
== Command Moves == | ==Command Moves== | ||
'''Mad Slasher Kick [Geri Toorima]''' - (b/f + B) | '''Mad Slasher Kick [Geri Toorima]''' - (b/f + B) | ||
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* Flies backwards first until he hits the wall | * Flies backwards first until he hits the wall | ||
* Holding the button will have Choi execute the forward | * Holding the button will have Choi execute the spin forward for D and down for B. If not held, Choi will just drop back to the ground when he hits the wall | ||
* Can change direction by doing Houkou Tenkan mid-move | * Can change direction by doing Houkou Tenkan mid-move | ||
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:* Very unsafe if blocked | :* Very unsafe if blocked | ||
== Desperation Moves == | ==Desperation Moves== | ||
'''Tornado Ripper [Shin! Chouzetsu Tatsumaki Shinkuuzan]''' - (hcb x 2 + A/C) | '''Tornado Ripper [Shin! Chouzetsu Tatsumaki Shinkuuzan]''' - (hcb x 2 + A/C) | ||
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* Does huge damage | * Does huge damage | ||
== Super Desperation Moves == | ==Super Desperation Moves== | ||
'''Phoenix Flattener [Hou'ou Kyaku]''' - (qcf~hcb+B+D) | '''Phoenix Flattener [Hou'ou Kyaku]''' - (qcf~hcb+B+D) | ||
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* Comes out instantly, more damage than the normal DM version but doesn't have any invincibility | * Comes out instantly, more damage than the normal DM version but doesn't have any invincibility | ||
== HSDM == | ==HSDM== | ||
'''Instant Death [Shakushi]''' - (hcfx2+A+C) in air | '''Instant Death [Shakushi]''' - (hcfx2+A+C) in air | ||
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==Combos== | ==Combos== | ||
* cr. | ===0 Stock=== | ||
''Anywhere'' | |||
* cr.Bx1~2, st.A | |||
: A basic string, pretty nice for meter conversion that leaves you plus on block and if done point-blank at the right spacing for a <u>hyper hop cross-up C</u> on everyone but crouching (Bao, Chin, Choi). | |||
* b/f+B, st.A | |||
: Sadly not an overhead despite the looks but still an okay conversion up to about 2/3 of your long range b/f+B poke. Very safe on block. | |||
★ '''cr.C, qcb+A > A''' | |||
: Doesn't work at the very tip of cr.C but still a good long range conversion. The further you are the faster you need to input the A follow-up, pretty punishable on block if too close. The C follow-up is 1% more damage but slower, worse on block and whiffs on just about every croucher, don't use it. '''19%'''. | |||
''Corner'' | |||
★ '''cr.B, cr.A, d~u+C''' | |||
: Decent damage though not much oki if the opponent techs the knockdown. You can give up a bit of damage and use d~u+A for better oki but it makes the combo a bit tighter. '''19%'''. | |||
===1 Stock=== | |||
''Anywhere'' | |||
★ '''cr.Bx1~2, st.A, qcf,hcb+K''' | |||
: Nice and reliable 1 bar bnb, do it as cr.Bx1~2, qcf, st.A, qcb+K. This is the combo you'll be using the most, make sure you've got it down. '''29%'''. | |||
★ '''b/f+B, qcf,hcb+K''' | |||
: qcf,hcb+K is extremely fast, enough to just link it after about 2/3 of b/f+B's range. Make sure to use [[The_King_of_Fighters_2002_UM/FAQ#I.27m_doing_the_motion_but_the_move_doesn.27t_come_out._Do_I_have_to_time_it_frame-perfect.3F|button hold]]. '''30%'''. | |||
* b/f+B, st.A, qcf,hcb+K | |||
: Optimized version, works for about the same range but the farther the tighter the st.A link is, so make sure you lab this if you really want the extra damage from st.A. Do it as b/f+B, qcf, st.A, qcb+K. '''33%'''. | |||
===2 Stocks=== | |||
''Anywhere'' | |||
* cr.B, cr.A, d~u+C(1), (SC) qcf,hcb+K | |||
: Better confirm than the max route but still a pretty bad combo, default to the 1 bar bnb. '''34%''' | |||
★ '''<u>st.D</u> / cr.C, BC run, cl.A/cr.A, qcb+A(7~9), (C)qcf+B(1), (SC) qcfx2+C''' | |||
: Your main max route, bad confirm but fairly simple and good damage with a qcf+B, (SC) qcf+C shortcut for the end. Stick to qcb+A(7) on crouching opponents unless in dead corner except crouching Jhun on who you can only go up to qcb+A(8). <u>You lose a hit on Bao so qcb+A(8) if he's standing and qcb+A(6) if he's crouching.</u> '''63%''' | |||
''Midscreen'' | |||
* st.D / cr.C, BC run, cl.A/cr.A, qcb+A(9), (C)qcf+B(1), (SC) qcfx2+A | |||
: <u>On crouching opponents midscreen</u>, you'll switch sides past qcb+A(7), this is the combo to use on them. Since you switch sides, you have to input qcf+B as qcb+B instead then qcb+A for the SC shortcut. Doesn't work on crouching Jhun. '''62%''' | |||
* st.D / cr.C, BC run, cl.A/cr.A, qcb+A(8), (C)qcf+B(3), (SC) qcfx2+C | |||
: This is the one to use on crouching Jhun. Input qcf+B as qcb+B then you have to fully input qcfx2+C as qcbx2+C for the 3rd hit. You can use it on anyone but it does less than the previous route and it's harder. '''61%''' | |||
===3 Stocks=== | |||
''Anywhere'' | |||
* cr. | * cr.Bx1~2, st.A, qcf,hcb+BD | ||
: Easy 3 bar conversion, do it as cr.Bx1~2, qcf, st.A, qcb+BD. Not much damage but good to know if you wanna spend the meter. '''40%'''. | |||
* b/f+B, | * b/f+B, qcf,hcb+BD | ||
: qcf,hcb+BD is extremely fast, enough to just link it after about 2/3 of b/f+B's range. Make sure to use [[The_King_of_Fighters_2002_UM/FAQ#I.27m_doing_the_motion_but_the_move_doesn.27t_come_out._Do_I_have_to_time_it_frame-perfect.3F|button hold]]. '''41%'''. | |||
* | * b/f+B, st.A, qcf,hcb+BD | ||
: Optimized version, works for about the same range but the farther the tighter the st.A link is, so make sure you lab this if you really want the extra damage from st.A. Do it as b/f+B, qcf, st.A, qcb+K. '''44%'''. | |||
== Videos == | ==Videos== | ||
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{{#ev:youtube|LsnNRUkXBlE|||'''Choi Master Class'''|frame}} | {{#ev:youtube|LsnNRUkXBlE|||'''Choi Master Class'''|frame}} |
Revision as of 11:48, 12 May 2021
Movelist
Throws
Command Moves
Special Moves
Tatsumaki Zan Shippuu - charge ~ + /
Hishou Kuuretsu Zan - charge ~ + /
- Houkou Tenkan - any direction + button (up to three times)
Hien Senpuu Zash - charge ~ + /
- Houkou Tenkan - any direction + button (up to three times)
Desperation Moves
Shin! Chouzetsu Tatsumaki Shinkuuzan - + /
Shin! Chouzetsu Rinnekoro Totsuha - in air, + /
Super Desperation Move
Hidden Super Desperation Move
0 Bar |
Anywhere Low, Corner |
cr.C, qcb+A > A = 19% (jump-in), cr.B, cr.A, d~u+C = 19% |
1 Bar |
Low Anywhere |
cr.Bx1~2, st.A, qcf,hcb+K = 29% (jump-in), cr.B, st.A, qcf,hcb+K = 27% |
3 Bar |
Low Anywhere |
cr.Bx1~2, st.A, qcf,hcb+BD = 40% (jump-in), cr.B, st.A, qcf,hcb+BD = 38% |
Normals
Close
- cl.A/B/C are cancel-able
- cl.A is chain-able into itself, far A, st. B, cl. B, cr. A and cr. B
- cl. B is chain-able into far A, far B, cl. B, cr. A and cr. B
Standing
- far A is Choi's only standing cancel-able normal attack. Good to use as a close ranged poke.
- far B is a side kick can be used as a close ranged poke
- far C can hit opponents trying to jump in towards Choi at a mid-range distance. It will activate into a cl. C if the opponent tries to jump to close.
- st. D hits mid (not low), and has a very long horizontal hitbox, and short vertical hurtbox. Can be used as a poke to evade some characters high aiming normals, special moves, and can even be used to anti-air at a mid to long range against very horizontal jump attacks.
Crouching
- cr. A/B/C are cancel-able
- cr. B is a good low poke that is good to start combos but has short range, shorter than far B
- cr. C has a good horizontal range that move's Choi forward slightly
- cr. D is a sweep that has more range cr. B
Jumping
- j. A can be used as a quick air-to-air
- j. B can be used as an air-to-air or as a keep away anti-air option
- j. C is a great jump-in 2 hit cross-up and is also special cancel-able
- Neutral j. C can be used as a keep-out air-to-air attack
- j. D can be use as a jump-in attack or keep away anti-air, and can be used to cross-up standing opponents
- Neutral j. D can also be used as a keep-out air-to-air attack against jumps and super jumps
Blowback
- st. CD is similar to st. D that it can duck and evade some character's normals but has more horizontal range, and is whiff cancel-able.
- j. CD is a cancel-able drop kick that can be used air-to-air or from air-to-ground
Throws
Head Jabber [Zujou Sashi] - close, (b/f + C)
- Choi sits on the back of the opponent's neck to stab and jab their head repeatedly. The opponent lands near the corner of the screen.
- Soft knockdown
- Can't be mashed out of
Low Bloodletter [Geketsu Zuki] - close, (b/f + D)
- Choi crawls behind the opponent to stab them on the behind. The opponent lands at the corner of the screen.
- Soft knockdown
Command Moves
Mad Slasher Kick [Geri Toorima] - (b/f + B)
- Choi somersaults low toward the opponent
- Cancel-able from cancel-able normals
- Hits mid
- Plus frames on block
- Avoids low attacks
Special Moves
Hurricane Cutter [Tatsumaki Zan Shippuu] - (d~u + A/C)
- Choi spins up vertically creating a slashing tornado. Good to use as an hard read anti-air. Doesn't feature any invincibility. Easy to combo from light attacks.
- A version goes up slightly performs 7 hits at point blank, C version goes forward a bit first before flying up really high, performs 8 hits.
- Both are super cancel-able from the 4th to last hit of the light punch version, from the 3rd to the last hit of the heavy punch version
- Extremely unsafe if blocked/misses
Soaring Kick [Hishou Kyaku] - (qcf + B/D) in air
- Choi uses Kim air stomp kick. Can be performed from a hop or a jump. Hard to punish on block.
- A version goes downwards more, C version goes around 45 degrees
Hienzan - (dp + B/D)
- Choi performs Kim flash kick. Good to use as an anti-air, has fast start-up but doesn't have an invincibility. Light kick version (B) hits once, heavy kick version hits twice
- Depending on standing location, second hit of D version may not connect on grounded opponents
- Soft knockdown
Hishou Kuuretsu Zan - (d~u + B/D)
- Flies backwards first until he hits the wall
- Holding the button will have Choi execute the spin forward for D and down for B. If not held, Choi will just drop back to the ground when he hits the wall
- Can change direction by doing Houkou Tenkan mid-move
- Directional change can be done for 3 times
- Juggles opponent
- ┗Houkou Tenkan - any direction + button (up to three times)
Flying Monkey Slice [Hien Senpuu Zash] - (b~f + A/C)
- Flies forward spinning
- Can change direction by doing Houkou Tenkan mid-move
- Directional change can be done for 3 times
- Juggles opponent
┗Houkou Tenkan - any direction + button (up to three times)
Kaiten Hien Zan - (qcb + A/C)
- Choi rolls onto the opponent if he touches them while rolling forward
- After rolling up the opponent, A version will have him bounce forward from the opponent, C version will have him bounce backward
- Before latching onto the opponent, Choi can cancel this move into Kishuu Hien Zuki
- After jumping off the opponent, Choi can either execute Hishou Kyaku (qcf+K in air) or Shin! Chouzetsu Rinkaiten Toppa before landing
- ┗Kishuu Hien Zuki - (A/C)
- Only can be done while Choi is still rolling forward
- A button flies lower, C button flies higher and farther
- Knocks away opponent if connected
- Very unsafe if blocked
Desperation Moves
Tornado Ripper [Shin! Chouzetsu Tatsumaki Shinkuuzan] - (hcb x 2 + A/C)
- Creates a tornado that goes at fullscreen height
- Knocks opponent into the air for juggle
- Choi can move forward or backward during this move
- Choi poses when the move is done, extremely punishable
Phoenix Flattener [Hou'ou Kyaku] - (qcf~hcb + B/D)
- B version runs 3/4ths of fullscreen, D version runs fullscreen
- Comes out instantly, but no invincibility
Superlative Rolling Charger [Shin! Chouzetsu Rinnekoro Totsuha] - (qcf x 2 + A/C) in air
- A version flies straight down, C version flies 45 degrees down
- Bounces back at the end of the move regardless if it hits anyone
- Does huge damage
Super Desperation Moves
Phoenix Flattener [Hou'ou Kyaku] - (qcf~hcb+B+D)
- Comes out instantly, more damage than the normal DM version but doesn't have any invincibility
HSDM
Instant Death [Shakushi] - (hcfx2+A+C) in air
- Choi disappears until the end of this move
- 5 slashes will appear one after another on screen on random locations
- Can be blocked but can cross-up depending on the slash location
- Does not juggle, not even on counter
Combos
0 Stock
Anywhere
- cr.Bx1~2, st.A
- A basic string, pretty nice for meter conversion that leaves you plus on block and if done point-blank at the right spacing for a hyper hop cross-up C on everyone but crouching (Bao, Chin, Choi).
- b/f+B, st.A
- Sadly not an overhead despite the looks but still an okay conversion up to about 2/3 of your long range b/f+B poke. Very safe on block.
★ cr.C, qcb+A > A
- Doesn't work at the very tip of cr.C but still a good long range conversion. The further you are the faster you need to input the A follow-up, pretty punishable on block if too close. The C follow-up is 1% more damage but slower, worse on block and whiffs on just about every croucher, don't use it. 19%.
Corner
★ cr.B, cr.A, d~u+C
- Decent damage though not much oki if the opponent techs the knockdown. You can give up a bit of damage and use d~u+A for better oki but it makes the combo a bit tighter. 19%.
1 Stock
Anywhere
★ cr.Bx1~2, st.A, qcf,hcb+K
- Nice and reliable 1 bar bnb, do it as cr.Bx1~2, qcf, st.A, qcb+K. This is the combo you'll be using the most, make sure you've got it down. 29%.
★ b/f+B, qcf,hcb+K
- qcf,hcb+K is extremely fast, enough to just link it after about 2/3 of b/f+B's range. Make sure to use button hold. 30%.
- b/f+B, st.A, qcf,hcb+K
- Optimized version, works for about the same range but the farther the tighter the st.A link is, so make sure you lab this if you really want the extra damage from st.A. Do it as b/f+B, qcf, st.A, qcb+K. 33%.
2 Stocks
Anywhere
- cr.B, cr.A, d~u+C(1), (SC) qcf,hcb+K
- Better confirm than the max route but still a pretty bad combo, default to the 1 bar bnb. 34%
★ st.D / cr.C, BC run, cl.A/cr.A, qcb+A(7~9), (C)qcf+B(1), (SC) qcfx2+C
- Your main max route, bad confirm but fairly simple and good damage with a qcf+B, (SC) qcf+C shortcut for the end. Stick to qcb+A(7) on crouching opponents unless in dead corner except crouching Jhun on who you can only go up to qcb+A(8). You lose a hit on Bao so qcb+A(8) if he's standing and qcb+A(6) if he's crouching. 63%
Midscreen
- st.D / cr.C, BC run, cl.A/cr.A, qcb+A(9), (C)qcf+B(1), (SC) qcfx2+A
- On crouching opponents midscreen, you'll switch sides past qcb+A(7), this is the combo to use on them. Since you switch sides, you have to input qcf+B as qcb+B instead then qcb+A for the SC shortcut. Doesn't work on crouching Jhun. 62%
- st.D / cr.C, BC run, cl.A/cr.A, qcb+A(8), (C)qcf+B(3), (SC) qcfx2+C
- This is the one to use on crouching Jhun. Input qcf+B as qcb+B then you have to fully input qcfx2+C as qcbx2+C for the 3rd hit. You can use it on anyone but it does less than the previous route and it's harder. 61%
3 Stocks
Anywhere
- cr.Bx1~2, st.A, qcf,hcb+BD
- Easy 3 bar conversion, do it as cr.Bx1~2, qcf, st.A, qcb+BD. Not much damage but good to know if you wanna spend the meter. 40%.
- b/f+B, qcf,hcb+BD
- qcf,hcb+BD is extremely fast, enough to just link it after about 2/3 of b/f+B's range. Make sure to use button hold. 41%.
- b/f+B, st.A, qcf,hcb+BD
- Optimized version, works for about the same range but the farther the tighter the st.A link is, so make sure you lab this if you really want the extra damage from st.A. Do it as b/f+B, qcf, st.A, qcb+K. 44%.
Videos
External Links
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