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* cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), qcf,hcb+AC | * cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), qcf,hcb+AC | ||
: Going from d+A to df+B(1) you can just do hcb+AC to trigger super. | : Going from d+A to df+B(1) you can just do hcb+AC to trigger super. | ||
★ '''Replace ''qcf,hcb+A'' | ★ '''Replace ''qcf,hcb+A'' by ''qcf,hcb+AC'' in 2 stocks anywhere max combo''' | ||
: You get ~17% more damage, which is pretty good for relatively simple anywhere combos. | : You get ~17% more damage, which is pretty good for relatively simple anywhere combos. | ||
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* cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), d~u+D(1) (SC) qcf,hcb+AC | * cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), d~u+D(1) (SC) qcf,hcb+AC | ||
: You can shortcut the SC as d~qcf,uf+D(1) (SC) qcb+AC. Not enough damage for the meter required but having it as an option matters. Doesn't work on crouching Jhun. | : You can shortcut the SC as d~qcf,uf+D(1) (SC) qcb+AC. Not enough damage for the meter required but having it as an option matters. Doesn't work on crouching Jhun. | ||
★ '''Replace ''d~u+D'' | ★ '''Replace ''d~u+D'' by ''d~u+D(1) (SC) qcfx2+D'' in 2 stocks corner max combo''' | ||
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Revision as of 16:46, 16 March 2021
Movelist
0 Bar |
Low |
cr.B, cr.A, d~u+P, d~u+B / sj.CD / sj.C = 23%-28% |
1 Bar |
Low Anywhere Corner |
cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), qcfx2+D = 35% (jump-in), cr.A, df+B(1), qcf,hcb+A = 37% (jump-in), cr.C, d~u+C, qcfx2+D, d~u+D = 47% |
2 Bar |
Low Anywhere |
cr B, cr.A, d~u+P(2) (SC) qcfx2+D = 35% (jump-in), cr.C, d~u+P(2) (SC) qcfx2+D = 36% |
3 Bar |
Low Anywhere Corner |
cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), qcf,hcb+AC = 56% (jump-in), cr.A, df+B(1), qcf,hcb+AC = 52% (jump-in), cr.C, d~u+C, qcfx2+D, d~u+D(1) (SC) qcfx2+D = 60% |
Normals
Close
- cl.B, and cl.C are cancel-able
- cl. D hits twice, is not cancel-able and moves Robert back if blocked
- cl. B is a low attack
- cl. A/C/D are neutral on block
- cl. A whiffs on crouching opponents
Standing
- st. A is a jab that is good for stopping incoming hops
- st. B doesn't hit low but is a good close ranged poke
- st. C is an awkward looking and awkward aiming uppercut that has bad range and speed
- st. D is an inverted roundhouse kick that has good range but isnt cancel-able
Crouching
- cr. A/B/C/D are cancel-able on hit and block
- cr. B hits low and is chain-able into itself and chain-able into st. B and cr. A
- cr. C can be used as an anti-air,to start combos and cancelled into his command normals
- cr. D is a great sweep that can be whiff cancelled
Jumping
- Neutral j.A/B/C/D are all downward aiming punches and kicks which can be used to stop incoming super jumps at a far range
- j.A is a downward angled jab which can be used to catch opponents trying to hop backward at a close range
- j.B can be used as a cross-up
- j.A/C can whiff on crouching opponents if released at a high height
- j.C/D are good air-to-ground jumping attacks
Blowback
- Standing CD is cancel-able on hit/block and whiff cancel-able, and has good horizontal range
- Jump CD is a good air-to-air attack but whiffs completely on crouching opponents
Throws
Kick of the Dragon - (b/f + C) close
- Robert grabs the opponent, then kicks them with both feet to the chest, throwing them towards the corner while Robert back flips away. The opponent lands at the corner of the screen, while Rober flips towards the opposite end.
- Soft knockdown
- Should be used to create space between you and the opponent since you can't use it for any kind of okizeme/wake-up opportunity or follow up.
Decapitating Drop - (b/f + D) close
- Robert grabs the opponent with one hand, then slams them to the ground on the other side.
- Hard knockdown
- The opponent lands a character space away from the end of the screen in the corner. The opponent wakes up as soon as Robert recovers from the throw animation making it difficult for okizeme follow-ups. Okizeme is a bit easier if the opponent lands directly in the corner.
Command Moves
Dragon-felling Kick - (b or f + A)
- This sobat kick is an overhead, that has lower body invincibility.
- Plus frames on block, neutral if cancelled from st.C or cr. C (but loses overhead property)
- On hit, and in the corner, can link into his cr. A, cr. B, charge down~up+P command throw, charge down~up+K, and even his qcfx2+K super
Soaring Dragon Kick - (b or f + B)
- A side kick that can be canceled into Robert's special moves
- Lots of pushback on block while having negative frames
- Can be canceled from his cr. A, st. B, st. C, cr. C and cr. D which makes it useful for combos
- Should not be used as an anti-air because of it's slow start-up and lack of shrinking hurt box
Double Kick - (df + B)
- A sliding double low kick
- Can't slide under high passing horizontal fireballs
- First hit special and super cancel-able (the timing is a bit tough)
- Can be canceled from Robert's standing and crouching normals (except his far standing normals)
- -1 frame on block but still good to use for offensive pressure
- Important command normal to use for his BC/Max Mode combos
- Soft knockdown
Flying Dragon Kick - (df + B/D) in air
- A sharp angled dive kick. B version has a steeper downward angle while the D version has a less steep angle
- B version can cross-up on standing & crouching opponents and is safe on block, while the D version doesn't have a hitbox that can cross up but is neutral on block
- On hit, D version in the corner can be linked into Robert's charge down~up+K special move
- B version
Special Moves
Dragon Blast Punch - (charge b~f + A/C)
- Robert's Sonic Boom projectile. The height of the fireball is rather high and is released around Robert's shoulder which can make is susceptible to be evaded by some characters low crouching heights or sliding attacks.
- The A (light punch) version travels slowly & goes full screen but dissipates near the corner of the screen, while the C (heavy punch) version travels fast, but goes 3/4 screen length and can combo after his cr. C, or b/f + B command normal.
- A and C versions of projectiles have different height. A goes slightly lower which can hit regular size crouched characters, while C goes over them.
Spinning Combination Kick - close, (charge d~u + A/C)
- Robert performs a close-ranged 3 hit combo which launches the opponent in the air. It is a proximity unblockable that has great range with a rather awkward command motion with the charge.
- While the opponent is mid-air you can perform an air reset with a jumping normal or a special move (easier in the corner)
- 2nd hit Super cancel-able
Lightning Legs Knockout Kick - charge (b~f + B/D)
- Robert spins kicks mid-air hitting the opponent 3 times. Both light and heavy kick version performs 3 hits and has the same damage output (appox. 12% damage).
- The B version (light kick) has a shorter horizontal range than the D version (heavy kick). Both versions are unsafe on block if performed at close range.
- The B version (light kick) causes around 40% guard damage while the D version (heavy kick) causes around 5% guard damage
- Can evade ground projectiles and low aiming attacks while Robert is spinning in mid-air
- Soft knockdown on hit
Flying Dragon Slash - charge (d~u + B/D)
- Robert's flash kick. B (light kick) version has a short vertical range, hits once while the D (heavy kick) version reaches higher in the air and causes 2 hits.
- The B version causes less damage than the D version, and has less upper body invincibility than the D version
- Both versions are unsafe on block and has poor recovery if whiffed
- D version is super cancel-able
Desperation Moves
Haoh Sho Koh Ken - (f, hcf + A/C)
- Robert hurls a giant fireball toward the opponent. The A (light punch) version has faster start-up but travels slower while the C (heavy punch) version has less start-up but the projectile travels faster. It's similar to Normal Robert's Haoh Sho Koh Ken that it has extremely limited combo uses and it can even be rather difficult to challenge the opponents normal projectiles with because of its slow start up and the projectile's slow speed.
- Soft Knockdown
Ryuko Ranbu - (qcf, hcb + A/C)
- This is Robert's ranbu super. He dashes toward the opponent to deliver a barrage of kicks and punches up to 15 hits. Both punch versions have start-up invincibility and have the same damage output, but the only difference is the distance of the dash. The A version travels less than the C version which can connect to an opponent from screen corner to corner.
- Somewhat of a limited DM because of it's slow start-up which makes utilizing it to react pre-emptively to incoming fireballs and jumps tough, and makes it very hard to use in combos.
Combo Advice: Can combo from the first hit of his close D and first hit of his df+B (very tough timing)
Nine Dragon Heads - (qcf x 2 + B/D)
- Robert throws out a few flash kicks which end in a high flash kick that knocks the opponent toward the corner. A much better DM than his Ranbu and Hou Sho Koh Ken because of it's faster start-up, invincibility, and it's much easier to use to end combos with. You can use this as an anti-air, as a reversal option if you're knockdown or to punish unsafe blockstrings.
- The B (light kick) version hits the opponent 6 times, while the D (heavy kick) version hits the opponent 9 times with slightly higher damage and it juggles as well, though you cant get much out from it outside of proximity grab.
Combo Advice: Can easily combo after a cl.C, b+B string, or cr.B, st.B, b+B string as well
Super Desperation Moves
Ryuko Ranbu - (qcf, hcb + AC)
- This version of his Ranbu has a higher damage output, a small increase in start-up frames but hosts the same amount of start-up invincibility with no one during his dash. Best used at the end of combos, as a reversal option, to punish predictable rolls, or as an anti-air at a mid range (it may get beaten from some jump-in attacks at a far range if timed incorrectly).
Combo Advice: Can connect well from cl.C/cr.C, f/b+B or cr.B, st.B/cr.A, f/b+B
HSDM
EX Ryuuko Ranbu - (qcf, hcb + BD)
- This is the HDSM version of his Ranbu super. It has full invincibility throughout the start-up and active frames (the dash) but suffers from poor, slow start-up which makes it difficult to use as an anti-air, hard to use as a reversal (the slow start-up and freeze frame), and you can't use this to end combos with. Also, the range of the dash is similar to the A version (light punch) Ranbu super. This HSDM is best used to punish special moves with horrible recovery or to phase through the opponents's projectiles.
Combos
You can always replace cr.B, cr.A with cr.C or just cr.A. You can add a jump-in to every combo if you do so.
- The combos noted as inconsistent will then stop being so.
You simply do not have a reliable low route on crouching Bao. cr.B, cr.A doesn't work.
- You have to give up on cr.B and just stick to cr.A or cr.C against him.
- In the corner, f+A can whiff point blank against crouching Bao but if it lands, at least d~u+P/D will combo properly. Give up on cr.A/cr.C.
- Note that f+A point blank in the corner whiffs on crouching Jhun as well but you can link cr.A after it just fine when it hits.
In corner after d~u+C, qcfx2+D DM doesn't juggle on Kasumi so you don't get the flashkick follow-up and it completely whiffs on Angel, don't use it against Angel.
When given the choice, cr.C is preferred to cl.C as it's faster and has better range but note that cr.C is very punishable if not canceled.
0 Stock
Anywhere
★ cr.B, cr.A, d~u+P, sj.C / d~u+B / sj.CD
- Basic meterless low confirm. d~u+B for damage, sj.CD for oki and sj.C for an advantageous reset. d~u+P won't come out on block so you'll be inherently safe. Reminder you can use cr.C instead of cr.B, cr.A.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), d~u+D
- More damaging but less reliable low route. Stop at df+B and preferably cr.A on block to be safe. d~u+D's 2nd hit will whiff on crouching (Vice,Mature), omit cr.B on them.
- cr.B, cr.A, b+B, b~f+B
- There's no reason to ever use this over the last two. Less damage and more punishable.
★ b/f+A, d~u+D
- Basic midscreen overhead conversion. You can connect the flashkick from pretty far away, making this a great way to capitalize on the opponent getting caught by surprise. Doesn't work on crouching Bao.
Corner
★ b/f+A, (cr.A / cr.C), d~u+P, d~u+B / sj.CD / sj.C
- cr.C does more and is an easier link (4f) than cr.A (3f) but it's a bit inconsistent whereas cr.A has more range and is safer, default to cr.A if unsure. Don't use cr.A/cr.C on crouching Bao.
- b/f+A, cr.A, df+B(1), d~u+D
- A more confirmable but also less consistent corner overhead conversion.
1 Stock
Anywhere
- cl C/cr C, f+B, qcfx2+D
- f+B will whiff on low crouchers but Chris, Andy, Yashiro, Yamazaki, Billy, Kim, Hinako. It works on everyone else, tiny crouchers included.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), qcf,hcb+A or qcfx2+D
- Going from d+A to df+B(1) you can just do hcb+A or f,qcf+D to trigger either super. qcf,hcb+A does more but it's inconsistent if you don't remove cr.B or do a jump-in instead of it.
Corner
★ cr.B, cr.A, d~u+C, qcfx2+D, d~u+D
- Basic 1 bar corner conversion, great damage for how easy and safe it is.
★ b/f+A, (cr.A / cr.C), d~u+C, qcfx2+D, d~u+D
- cr.C does more and is an easier link (4f) than cr.A (3f) but it's a bit inconsistent whereas cr.A has more range and is safer, default to cr.A if unsure. Don't use cr.A/cr.C on crouching Bao.
2 Stocks
Anywhere
★ cr B, cr.A, d~u+P(2) (SC) qcfx2+D
- Less damage than the next one but nice and easy. Good one to go for if you don't want to risk max mode.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), d~u+D(1) (SC) qcf,hcb+A or qcfx2+D
- You can shortcut the SC as d~qcf,uf+D(1) (SC) qcb+A or qcf+D. More damage and enough time to confirm but not as safe as the previous. Doesn't work on crouching Jhun.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), BC run, cl.D(2), [(C) d~u+P(2), (C) d~u+D(1)]x2 (SC) qcf,hcb+A
- You can shortcut the SC as d~qcf,uf+D(1) (SC) qcb+A or qcf+D. 60%.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), BC run, cr.A/cr.C, df+B(1), d~u+D(1), [(C) d~u+P(2), (C) d~u+D(1)]x2 (SC) qcf,hcb+A
- More optimized version of the previous route. 68% with cr.C.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(2), BC run, cr.A, df+B(2), [(C) d~u+P(2), (C) d~u+D(1)]x2 (SC) qcf,hcb+A
- Route with more time to confirm but a bit less damage. 64%.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(2), BC run, cr.A, df+B(1), d~u+D(1), [(C) d~u+P(2), (C) d~u+D(1)]x2 (SC) qcf,hcb+A
- Optimized version of the previous route. 68%.
★ cr.B, cr.A, df+B(2), holding df, df+BC, d~u+D(1), [(C) d~u+P(2), (C) d~u+D(1)]x2 (SC) qcf,hcb+A
- Hold df through df+B, df+BC then just do u+D to trigger d~u+D. Easy option without max run, do use it if you can't do the run. 64%.
★ cr.B, cr.A, df+B(2), BC, slight walk, f+B, d~u+D(1), [(C) d~u+P(2), (C) d~u+D(1)]x2 (SC) qcf,hcb+A
- The walk is mostly for consistency on crouchers. A better version without max run but doesn't work on low crouchers specifically except Andy, Yashiro, Yamazaki, Billy, Kim, Hinako. 66%.
★ cr.B, cr.A, df+B(2), BC run, cr.C, d~u+D(1), [(C) d~u+P(2), (C) d~u+D(1)]x2 (SC) qcf,hcb+A
- Reliable combo for optimized damage. Default to this one for midscreen if you can do the run, 68%. Replace cr.B,cr.A by cr.C/cl.C for high version.
Corner
★ b/f+A, (cr.A / cr.C), d~u+P(2) (SC) qcfx2+D
- cr.C does more and is an easier link than cr.A but it's a bit inconsistent whereas cr.A has more range and is safer, default to cr.A if unsure. Don't use cr.A/cr.C on crouching Bao..
- b/f+A, cr.A, df+B(1), d~u+D(1) (SC) qcf,hcb+A or qcfx2+D
- A more confirmable but also inconsistent corner overhead conversion.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(2), BC run, cr.A, df+B(2), [(C) d~u+D(1), (C) d~u+P(2)]x2, qcfx2+D, d~u+D
- Corner version of previous max combo, 68%. Like the next combos, it does a fair amount of carry so you can do it from round start position.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(2), BC run, cr.A, df+B(1), d~u+P(2), [(C) d~u+D(1), (C) d~u+P(2)]x2, qcfx2+D, d~u+D
- Somewhat tight but optimal combo. 71%.
★ cr.B, cr.A, df+B(2), holding df, df+BC, d~u+P(2), [(C) d~u+D(1), (C) d~u+P(2)]x2, qcfx2+D, d~u+D
- Hold df through df+B, df+BC then just do u+P to trigger d~u+P. Easy option without max run, do use it if you can't do the run. 67%.
★ cr.B, cr.A, df+B(2), BC, slight walk, f+B, d~u+P(2), [(C) d~u+D(1), (C) d~u+P(2)]x2, qcfx2+D, d~u+D
- The walk is mostly for consistency on crouchers. A better version without max run but doesn't work on low crouchers specifically except Andy, Yashiro, Yamazaki, Billy, Kim, Hinako. 69%.
★ cr.B, cr.A, df+B(2), BC run, cr.C, d~u+P(2), [(C) d~u+D(1), (C) d~u+P(2)]x2, qcfx2+D, d~u+D
- Reliable combo for optimized damage. Default to this one for corner if you can do the max run, 71%. Replace cr.B,cr.A by cr.C/cl.C for high version.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), BC run, cr.A/cr.C, df+B(1), d~u+P(2), [(C) d~u+D(1), (C) d~u+P(2)]x2, qcfx2+D, d~u+D
- More optimized version of the previous route. 72% with cr.C.
- b/f+A, cr.A, df+B(1), BC run, cr.C, d~u+P(2), [(C) d~u+D(1), (C) d~u+P(2)]x2, qcfx2+D, d~u+D
- Great damage for an overhead conversion, though it's inconsistent and a bit riskier to confirm because of the link. Only use this after proper testing on the opposing character. You can replace cr.C with cr.A, df+B(1). 72%.
3 Stocks
Anywhere
- cl C/cr C, f+B, qcf,hcb+AC
- f+B will whiff on low crouchers but Chris, Andy, Yashiro, Yamazaki, Billy, Kim, Hinako. It works on everyone else, tiny crouchers included.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), qcf,hcb+AC
- Going from d+A to df+B(1) you can just do hcb+AC to trigger super.
★ Replace qcf,hcb+A by qcf,hcb+AC in 2 stocks anywhere max combo
- You get ~17% more damage, which is pretty good for relatively simple anywhere combos.
Corner
★ cr.B, cr.A, d~u+C, qcfx2+D, d~u+D(1) (SC) qcfx2+D
- Basic 3 bars corner conversion, not worth much compared to max but it's def easier to land.
★ b/f+A, (cr.A / cr.C), d~u+C, qcfx2+D, d~u+D(1) (SC) qcfx2+D
- cr.C does more and is an easier link (4f) than cr.A (3f) but it's a bit inconsistent whereas cr.A has more range and is safer, default to cr.A if unsure. Don't use cr.A/cr.C on crouching Bao.
4 Stocks
Anywhere
★ cr B, cr.A, d~u+P(2) (SC) qcf,hcb+AC
- Less damage than the next one but nice and easy. Good one to go for if you don't want to risk max mode.
- cr.B, cr.A, df+B(1), d~u+D(1) (SC) qcf,hcb+AC
- You can shortcut the SC as d~qcf,uf+D(1) (SC) qcb+AC. Not enough damage for the meter required but having it as an option matters. Doesn't work on crouching Jhun.
★ Replace d~u+D by d~u+D(1) (SC) qcfx2+D in 2 stocks corner max combo
Videos
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