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== Desperation Move ==
== Desperation Move ==


Gasshou Hiner - hcf x 2 + B/D
'''Gasshou Hiner''' - (hcf x 2 + B/D)


* Hinako leaps towards the opponent, grabs them, then throws them across the screen. The distance of the leap is about a hyper hop arch away from the opponent. This DM does have start-up invincibility but its rather short. Hinako has lower body invincibility during the leap, but can be hit before the grab comes out. The grab is block-able, but it can catch opponents normal and command normals and some special moves as well, except for counter based moves. If whiffed or blocked, Hinako can be easily punished. This move is best used to either avoid ground skimming fireballs, to punish opponents recovering from reversal based special moves or DMs, and can easily combo at the end of her df+A command normal.


== Super Desperation Move ==
== Super Desperation Move ==

Revision as of 19:32, 1 October 2014

Normal Moves

Stand

  • Hinako doesn't have any close versions of her standing normals
  • All of Hinako's stand normals are whiff cancel-able into special moves and command normals
  • st.A/st.B/C/D are cancel-able
  • st.A is chain-able, links into most of her command normals and is good for stopping hops
  • st.B unlike her other normals makes her sprite move forward rather than staying in the neutral stance
  • st.C/D are both great combo starters, link right into special attacks because of their hit-stun
  • st.D hits mid despite the look of it's hit-box and is special and command normal cancel-able


Crouch

  • cr.A and cr.C are mid attacks and are cancel-able into command and special moves
  • cr.B hits low and is chain-able into itself and into st.A, cr.A, and st.B
  • cr.C is okay for stopping air to ground jump in attacks but may be stuffed or traded because of its slow start-up and hitbox placement. This normal also moves Hinako forward a bit and is whiff cancel-able and special and command normal cancel-able
  • cr.D is a whiff cancel-able sweep. On hit it can be whiff cancelled into f+B, then cancelled into her down, down+K ground pound for a two hit combo, regardless if they ground tech or not

Jump

  • All of Hinako's jump normals hit overhead but the must be performed rather deep and late to hit crouching opponents.
  • j.A & j.B is good for attacking from the air-to-ground
  • j.C has a cross-up hit box but its rather difficult to combo into her st.C from it
  • j.D is the preferred jump-in attack, it hits twice and can connect easier into her st.B or st.C but must hit very deep and must be performed at the end of a hop. It is also a good normal to jump away from the opponent with and to zone slightly within her hop arc area. It may whiff on crouching opponents easily if performed too early in the jump


Blowback Attack

  • st.CD moves Hinako forward a bit, while her hitbox when starting up crouches VERY low, then raises when active.
  • st.CD on hit can cause a 2 hit setup like her crouching D (heavy kick) by cancelling into her f+B command normal then performing down,down+D
  • j.CD is good for air-to-ground offense, and has a very steep diagonal angle

Throws

Tasuki Nage - close, (b/f + C)

  • Hinako lifts the opponent and toss them over her head
  • The distance the opponent lands is around a full hyper hop distance away
  • Hard knockdown

Uwate Swimming - close, (b/f + D)

  • Hinako tosses and slides the opponent to the ground on their backside
  • The distance the opponent lands and wakes up is rather close, it's far enough for her st.B to hit
  • Hard knockdown

Command Moves

Harite Sendai - (f + A, A)

  • Hinako slaps the opponent in the face which is follow by her st.A
  • Her f+A by itself can be special cancelled
  • Although can be cancelled into her st.C and st.C, it will whiff because Hinko will be pushed back
  • Neutral on block by itself, plus frames when st.A is added


Harite Nishiki - (f + A, C)

  • Hinako slaps the opponent in the face which is follow by her st.C
  • Her f+A by itself can be special cancelled
  • Although can be cancelled into her st.C and st.C, it will whiff because Hinko will be pushed back
  • Neutral on block, negative when st.C is added


Tsuppari - (f + B, B)

  • Hinako steps forward with two palm thrusts
  • Second palm thrust provides enough hitstun for a follow-up into her st.B, or hcb+K, hcb,f+K or hcf+P
  • Can be swept under by the opponent
  • The first palm thrust is safe on block, as well as the second


Nodowa - (df + C, D)

  • Hinako takes a huge step forward and smacks the opponent in the face which is follow by her st.D which turns into a low attack
  • The input can be reversed as D, df+C. The stand D won't be a low attack, it will stay as a mid
  • The df+C is special cancel-able by itself, and the stand D is special cancel-able as well.
  • The df+C has frame advantage on block as well as the st.D
  • The df+C by itself knocks jumping opponents straight up, vertically in the air
  • Causes a soft knockdown


Maemitsu Tataki - (df + A)

  • A 2-hit slap uppercut that moves Hinako forward and is special cancel-able and can be easily cancelled from many of her normals
  • The 1st attack can be cancelled but it's best to cancel from the 2nd attack because it is easy to confirm into
  • Shouldn't be used as an anti-air of any kind; it's start up is rather slow, and Hinako's hurtbox doesn't shrink


Kakeguri - (df + D)

  • A rather short ranged round kick that hits low
  • Special cancel-able

Special Moves

Tsukidashi - (qcf + A/C)

  • Hinako marches forward with Sumo hand smacks. The hitboxes (which have no invinciblity) on the smacks when she is advancing forward is actually quite big which may stuff out the opponents standing normal attacks at a mid to close range. While moving forward she is open to getting hit by projectiles and counter based special moves. The light punch version is a bit safer on block than the heavy punch version. It's a difficult to punish her when this move is whiffed, especially the light punch version which has fast recovery frames. It's best to use this move only within combos, but it is okay to zone at a mid to close range with the light punch version every once in a while.
  • Light punch version does 4 hits, heavy punch version does 6 hits
  • Soft knockdown

Combo Advice: The light punch version can combo from light and close heavy attacks (df+C for example), while the heavy punch version can combo from close heavy normals and command normals (example: cl.C, df+A or f+A,A or f+B,B)


Tsuki Otoshi - (qcb + A/C)

  • Hinako performs 2 hits: one that is her st.B, then a 2nd hit that slams the opponent to the ground creating a hard knockdown. The first hit has a small amount of auto-guard frames which will absorb the attack, then knock the opponent down with the 2nd attack. The first hit will only auto-guard attacks (projectiles included) aimed at Hinako's mid-section or higher (irregardless of hit detection), and doesn't have very fast start-up, which may cause to be beaten out by incoming attacks if timed improperly. A successful auto-guard costs a bit of guard meter from Hinako, and she is also in counter hit state during the duration of the move. It's best to use this move more for the hard knockdown properties rather than trying to use it as a counter move or as an anti-air because of its slow start-up.
  • The second hit causes the opponent to be knockdown in front of Hinako's feet, which is adequate spacing for a cross-up j.C (a few steps back may be needed for certain characters) or a meaty cr.B, or any other okizeme mix-up you can try.
  • Hinako is at negative frames when this move is blocked but receives a small amount of push-back from the opponent
  • No property or damage difference between the light punch (A) and heavy punch (C) buttons
  • Hard knockdown

Combo Advice: It's best to cancel into this move from the first hit of her df+A command normal. A good example: cl.C, df+A (1), qcb+P or cr.B, st.B, df+A (1), qcb+P


Kote Nage - close, (hcf + B/D)

  • With a single hand, Hinako grabs the opponent, then swings and throws them face first sliding against the ground almost a half screen away. This is a command throw that has a whiff animation that can be blocked, so it should be used only during punished and most importantly at the end of combos. Hinako doesn't have any invincibility frames during this move, so it isn't a good idea to try to use it as an anti-air or to phase through attacks during block stun.
  • The distance Hinako throws the opponent is quite far, and she has some recovery frames to shake off herself after she throws them, so it's pretty hard to gain good okizeme (wake-up options) from this command throw.
  • On block, Hinako is at negative frames but is pushed back rather far enough to be punished properly. Hinako also gains a good clunk of meter if this attack is whiffed and more even which blocked.

Combo Advice: Hinako's normals can cancel easily into this command throw, except for her sweep (cr.D).

Kake Nage - close, (hcb, f + B/D)

  • This is Hinako's 1-frame command throw. Hinako tosses the opponent on their backside on the opposite side of where they were standing. The distance where the opponent lands is around the same distance as her hcf+K command throw, so you can't get any kind of okizeme from it. It's a pretty good throw to use if you want to throw the opponent in the corner if you are near the corner yourself, but if you use it against a cornered opponent, then you'll be obviously toss them out of the corner. It's rather easy to combo into this throw, but make sure your inputs are clean or else it may overlap with Hinako's other special moves.
  • 1 frame command throw
  • Hard knockdown


Yorigiri - close, (dp + B/D)

  • This is Hinako's 3rd command throw. This is a delayed invincible command throw which is highly similar to Daimon's dp+K command throw. Hinako ducks down low then grabs the opponent, pushing them ALL the way to the other side of the screen, corner to corner where she slams the opponent against the wall leaving them face down and character space away from the corner. You can try an ambiguous roll setup on their wake-up if you're quick enough.
  • Hinako does have invincibility during the start-up and active frames of this move which can quite annoying for the opponent, but it can be easily jumped out of on reaction or spaced out with a quick long ranged normal.
  • You can't combo into this command throw because of it's slow start-up, but you can use it to mix up your offense a bit.
  • Delayed invincible command throw
  • Hard knockdown
  • No difference between light kick and heavy kick buttons

Shiko Toumi - (d, d + B/D)

  • Hinako performs a powerful Sumo stomp that trembles the ground. This move behaves similar to Daimon's dp+A earthquake special move. The opponent is hit low anywhere on the screen, and must simply crouch to avoid the tremble. When hit from afar the opponent can tech the knockdown, but if performed at close (point blank or a part of a combo), the opponent can not tech at all and the stomp must be guarded low. There isn't a damage difference between the light and heavy kick versions but there is a slight start-up difference; light kick version starts up faster and is used in combos, while heavy kick has slower setup and isn't used in combos. This attack is good against opponents that are zoning from a far range with projectiles to entice them to come closer to you.
  • Hinako has very poor recovery if this move is whiffed and is at negative frames if blocked as well.
  • Hit detection, full screen low, must be crouched or jumped to be avoided
  • Hits rolling opponents
  • Soft knockdown far
  • Hard knockdown if hit close

Combo Advice:Hinako can combo into this special move in two ways:

1.) From her normal attacks as a combo, cl.C, df+A (2), down down+B or cr.Bx2, st.B, df+A (2), down down+B for example

2.) While the opponent is on-the-ground after a sweep (cr.D) or a st.CD by placing a f+B, then canceling it into a down down+B


Gorin Tsuki - (qcb + B/D)

  • Hinako squats down then performs a quick, powerful double palm thrust. On normal hit, the opponent is knocked a half screen away, on their backside, causing a hard knockdown. On counter hit, this attack causes a counter wire which causes a wall bounce anywhere on the screen, which Hinako can follow-up with an attack while the opponent is falling. This special move doesn't have any invincibility during the start, but Hinako's initially crouches low enough for she can avoid shoulder height horizontal projectiles. Her palm thrust can actually nullify projectiles except ones that skim across the ground (Iori's qcf+P or Kusanagi's qcf+P).
  • The light kick version is used in combos, while the heavy kick version has a much slower start-up, farther range and cannot be used in combos. There isn't a damage difference between the button strengths.
  • Both the light kick and heavy kick versions are quite safe and very hard to punish if blocked up close.
  • Causes hard knockdown
  • Causes wall bounce on counter hit (counter wire)

Combo Advice: The light kick version can be used after a few of her standing normals or her df+A command normal (cl.C, df+A, qcb+B for example).

Desperation Move

Gasshou Hiner - (hcf x 2 + B/D)

  • Hinako leaps towards the opponent, grabs them, then throws them across the screen. The distance of the leap is about a hyper hop arch away from the opponent. This DM does have start-up invincibility but its rather short. Hinako has lower body invincibility during the leap, but can be hit before the grab comes out. The grab is block-able, but it can catch opponents normal and command normals and some special moves as well, except for counter based moves. If whiffed or blocked, Hinako can be easily punished. This move is best used to either avoid ground skimming fireballs, to punish opponents recovering from reversal based special moves or DMs, and can easily combo at the end of her df+A command normal.

Super Desperation Move

Gasshou Hiner - hcf x 2 + B + D


HSDM

Daisharin Nodowa Otoshi - hcf x 2 + A + C

Combos

Crouching

1.) cr.b, cr.a, df + a (1 hit)

qcb + A/C, down, down + D (6 hits) / qcb + B (4 hits) / hcf + A (7 hits) / hcf + C (9 hits) / hcb, f + B or D

2.) cr.b, cr.a, df + a (2)

qcb + B (5 hits) / hcf + A (8 hits) / hcf + C (10 hits) / hcb, f + B or D / hcf, hcf + K or B+D (5 hits)

3.) cr.b X 2, cr.a, df + a (2)

hcb, f + B or D (5 hits) / hcf, hcf + K or B+D (5 hits)

4.) cr.b X 3, st.b, df + a (1)

qcb + A (7 hits) / qcb + B (6 hits) / hcf + C (11 hits) / hcb, f + B or D (6 hits) / hcf + B or D (6 hits)

5.) cr.b (X 2 or 3), far B

hcf + A (7 hits) / hcb, f + B or D / hcf + B or D (4 hits) / df + A, down, down + B

6.) cr.b (X 3), far B, df + A (2)

hcb, f + B or D (5 hits) / hcf, hcf + K or B+D (5 hits)


Standing combo starters


1.) cl.c or cl.d, f + B, B etc.


2.) cl.c or cl.d, f + B, B, df + A (1 or 2) etc.


3.) cl.c or cr.c, df + C etc.


4.) cl.c or cr.c, df + A etc.


Many of Hinako's normals and command moves are cancel-able, so feel free to experiment with all of them to see which specials can connect from them.

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