Daimon is a classic big-body grappler, with plenty of scary mixups up close and some good normals to fight with in neutral. His pokes are large with some good hitboxes on them, and his anti-air game is also strong. He's also got a fast fullscreen unblockable that hits standing opponents that he can use to deal with fireballs. Up close, Daimon has access to a 1f command grab, a invincible command grab, an overhead, a low, and some strong pokes to pressure with. Daimon also has access to a command roll that lets him quickly get in for a mixup at shorter ranges. Daimon's main weaknesses are his big size and his lack of an invincible reversal.
{{StrengthsAndWeaknesses
| description =Daimon is a classic big-body grappler, with plenty of scary mixups up close and some good normals to fight with in neutral. His pokes are large with some good hitboxes on them, and his anti-air game is also strong. He's also got a fast fullscreen unblockable that hits standing opponents that he can use to deal with fireballs. Up close, Daimon has access to a 1f command grab, a invincible command grab, an overhead, a low, and some strong pokes to pressure with. Daimon also has access to a command roll that lets him quickly get in for a mixup at shorter ranges. Daimon's main weaknesses are his big size and his lack of an invincible reversal.}}
== Changes from Previous Versions ==
== Changelist ==
'''98 to 98UM'''
=== '98 to Ultimate Match ===
Normals:
'''Normal Moves''':
* f+A now hits overhead, but its damage was lowered from 25 to 18 points
* <span style="background-color:#FF0>Rework</span> - Tama Tsubushi ([[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]) now hits overhead, but has reduced damage from 25 to 18<br>
* GCCD has increased recovery
* <span style="background-color:#F00>Nerf</span> - Recovery of Guard Cancel Blowback increased<br>
* st.B has reduced priority, the hurtbox is now in front of the hitbox
* <span style="background-color:#F00>Nerf</span> - Hurtbox added to f.B covering the hitbox<br>
* st.C has reduced priority
* <span style="background-color:#F00>Nerf</span> - Hurtbox of f.C increased in size<br>
* st.D has reduced priority
* <span style="background-color:#F00>Nerf</span> - Hurtbox of f.D increased in size<br>
* j.C has reduced priority
* <span style="background-color:#F00>Nerf</span> - Hurtbox added to j.D covering the hitbox<br>
* df+C's first hitbox has reduced priority
* <span style="background-color:#F00>Nerf</span> - First hitbox of Zujou Barai ([[image:df.gif]] + [[image:c.gif]]) reduced in size<br>
Specials:
'''Special Moves''':
* dp+A's startup has been reduced from 28 frames to 20 frames
* <span style="background-color:#F00>Nerf</span> + <span style="background-color:#0FF>Bug Fix</span> - OTG bug from the light version of Jiraishin ([[image:dp.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]) fixed<br>
* dp+A OTG bug has been removed
* <span style="background-color:#0F0>Buff</span> - Startup of the light version of Jiraishin ([[image:dp.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]) reduced from 28 to 20<br>
* hcb,f+K comes out faster and has a shorter back-turning motion
* <span style="background-color:#FF0>Rework</span> - Arashi no Yama: Nekko Nuki ([[image:hcf.gif]][[image:hcf.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] / [[image:d.gif]]) is now a counter super<br>
* df+C's first hit now has its original hitbox back.
=== Ultimate Match to Final Edition ===
Specials:
'''Normal Moves''':
* hcb,f+K's throw hitbox comes out faster
* <span style="background-color:#0F0>Buff</span> - First hitbox for Zujou Barai ([[image:df.gif]] + [[image:c.gif]]) reverted to Vanilla '98 size<br>
Supers:
'''Special Moves''':
* hcfx2+K super flash activates after the counter move connects, has more recovery on whiff, and has damage adjusted so that the third hit does the most damage
* cl.B: Decent for stopping hops or jump-outs, but it's too slow to be very useful. Whiffs on short crouchers. Cancelable.
* cl.B: Decent for stopping hops or jump-outs, but it's too slow to be very useful. Whiffs on short crouchers. Cancelable.
* cl.C: One of Daimon's main heavy combo buttons. It comes out fast and can be inputted as hcb+C to buffer a combo into his command grabs. Cancelable.
* cl.C: One of Daimon's main heavy combo buttons. It comes out fast and can be inputted as 63214C to buffer a combo into his command grabs. Cancelable.
* cl.D: Another one of his good heavy combo buttons. Hits higher up than cl.C, so it can catch jump-outs too. Cancelable.
* cl.D: Another one of his good heavy combo buttons. Hits higher up than cl.C, so it can catch jump-outs too. Cancelable.
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'''Standing'''
'''Standing'''
* st.A: Good anti-hop button. Whiffs on short crouchers.
* 5A: Good anti-hop button. Whiffs on short crouchers.
* st.B: Decent longer-range standing low that can be used to set up his qcb+K mixups. Cancelable.
* 5B: Decent longer-range standing low that can be used to set up his 214K mixups. Cancelable.
* st.C: Long-range poke. Occupies a lot of space in front of Daimon. Has a lot of active frames. Whiffs on short crouchers.
* 5C: Long-range poke. Occupies a lot of space in front of Daimon. Has a lot of active frames. Whiffs on short crouchers.
* st.D: Good preemptive anti-air, but has very little priority now, so it can trade easily. Whiffs on short crouchers.
* 5D: Good preemptive anti-air, but has very little priority now, so it can trade easily. Whiffs on short crouchers.
'''Crouching'''
'''Crouching'''
* cr.A: Decent for blockstrings or to chain into from cl.A. Cancelable.
* 2A: Decent for blockstrings or to chain into from 5A. Cancelable.
* cr.B: A low. You can link a hcb,f+P after it for a combo.
* 2B: A low. You can link a hcb,f+P after it for a combo.
* cr.C: Slow and not cancelable but a serviceable mid range poke for situations where st.C will whiff.
* 2C: Slow and not cancelable but a serviceable mid range poke for situations where 5C will whiff.
* cr.D: A fast but short-range sweep. Cancelable.
* 2D: A fast but short-range sweep. Cancelable.
'''Jumping'''
'''Jumping'''
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'''CD Normals'''
'''CD Normals'''
* st.CD: Slow startup, but has a nice hitbox in front of Daimon. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
* 5CD: Slow startup, but has a nice hitbox in front of Daimon. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
* j.CD: Slow but has a decent hitbox in front of Daimon. Has a small blind spot close to him.
* j.CD: Slow but has a decent hitbox in front of Daimon. Has a small blind spot close to him.
* Hold throw, not techable. Can be mashed for more damage. Daimon grabs the opponent in a chokehold and chokes them a couple of times. Causes a hard knockdown.
* Hold throw, not techable. Can be mashed for more damage. Daimon grabs the opponent in a chokehold and chokes them a couple of times. Causes a hard knockdown.
'''Crucifixion Press:''' <code>f/b+C</code>
'''Crucifixion Press:''' <code>6/4C</code>
* Regular throw, techable. Daimon picks the opponent up and slams them to the ground, causing the to slide on the ground. Causes a hard knockdown.
* Regular throw, techable. Daimon picks the opponent up and slams them to the ground, causing the to slide on the ground. Causes a hard knockdown.
'''Sliding Foot Takedown:'''<code>f/b+D</code>
'''Sliding Foot Takedown:'''<code>6/4D</code>
* Regular throw, techable. Daimon picks up the opponent and then sweeps their leg away while throwing them behind him. Causes a soft knockdown.
* Regular throw, techable. Daimon picks up the opponent and then sweeps their leg away while throwing them behind him. Causes a soft knockdown.
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== Command Moves ==
== Command Moves ==
'''Ball Basher:''' <code>f+A</code>
'''Ball Basher:''' <code>6A</code>
* An overhead with fairly long range. Loses the overhead property when canceled into.
* An overhead with fairly long range. Loses the overhead property when canceled into.
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* Causes a hard knockdown on hit.
* Causes a hard knockdown on hit.
'''Cranium Cruncher:''' <code>df+C</code>
'''Cranium Cruncher:''' <code>3C</code>
* A good anti-air normal with a nice hitbox diagonally above Daimon.
* A good anti-air normal with a nice hitbox diagonally above Daimon.
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== Special Moves ==
== Special Moves ==
'''Minelayer:''' <code>dp+A/C</code>
'''Minelayer:''' <code>623A/C</code>
* Daimon pounds the ground so hard that it sends an instant shockwave fullscreen, causing standing opponents to fall down.
* Daimon pounds the ground so hard that it sends an instant shockwave fullscreen, causing standing opponents to fall down.
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* Can also be used as a surprise fullscreen low attack if the opponent likes poking a lot.
* Can also be used as a surprise fullscreen low attack if the opponent likes poking a lot.
'''Super Ukemi:''' <code>qcb+B/D</code>
'''Super Ukemi:''' <code>214B/D</code>
* Daimon does a roll forwards.
* Daimon does a roll forwards.
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* Gets beaten out by mashing, so you may need to condition the opponent to not mash beforehand with frametraps.
* Gets beaten out by mashing, so you may need to condition the opponent to not mash beforehand with frametraps.
'''Cloud Tosser:''' <code>hcf+A</code>
'''Cloud Tosser:''' <code>41236A</code>
* Daimon reaches up into the air and grabs, if he hits the opponent he slams them down to the ground.
* Daimon reaches up into the air and grabs, if he hits the opponent he slams them down to the ground.
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* Can also work decently as an anti-air as it has a big hitbox with loads of priority. Daimon's hurtbox is actually at his waist when he does it, so his whole upper body is invincible.
* Can also work decently as an anti-air as it has a big hitbox with loads of priority. Daimon's hurtbox is actually at his waist when he does it, so his whole upper body is invincible.
* Great for combos after a counterhit df+C, and other juggle situations.
* Great for combos after a counterhit 3C, and other juggle situations.
* Has a lot of recovery, so it's a guaranteed punish on block or whiff.
* Has a lot of recovery, so it's a guaranteed punish on block or whiff.
'''Stump Throw:''' <code>hcf+C</code>
'''Stump Throw:''' <code>41236C</code>
* Daimon grabs the opponent low to the ground and slams them down on the other side.
* Daimon grabs the opponent low to the ground and slams them down on the other side.
* Good to beat people trying to mash at close range.
* Good to beat people trying to mash at close range.
* A core part of his close-range mixup game, as it will beat people trying to mash out from his hcb,f+P.
* A core part of his close-range mixup game, as it will beat people trying to mash out from his 632146P.
'''Earth Mover:''' <code>hcb,f+A/C (close)</code>
'''Earth Mover:''' <code>632146A/C (close)</code>
* Daimon throws the opponent into the air and lets them fall to the ground.
* Daimon throws the opponent into the air and lets them fall to the ground.
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* Can act before opponent hits the ground allowing for Max Mode activations for extra damage, ground pounds to build meter, or a time to set up offense.
* Can act before opponent hits the ground allowing for Max Mode activations for extra damage, ground pounds to build meter, or a time to set up offense.
'''Root Countermaneuver:''' <code>qcf+B/D</code>
'''Root Countermaneuver:''' <code>236B/D</code>
* A high and mid counter move.
* Counters grounded mid and high attacks.
* Becomes active on frame 2, so you can't reversal with it.
* Becomes active on frame 3, so you can't reversal with it.
* Can work as an anti-air or as an anti-poke tool.
* Can work as an anti-poke tool.
'''Reverse Drop:''' <code>hcb,f+B/D</code>
'''Reverse Drop:''' <code>632146B/D</code>
* Daimon runs forwards and tries to grab the opponent. When in range, he grabs the opponent and slams them behind him, causing a hard knockdown.
* Daimon runs forwards and tries to grab the opponent. When in range, he grabs the opponent and slams them behind him, causing a hard knockdown.
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* If the opponent is not throwable, Daimon turns around for a bit, leaving him open for backturned combos.
* If the opponent is not throwable, Daimon turns around for a bit, leaving him open for backturned combos.
* Can be useful to tick throw into from some stuff, like a st.B, but is mostly too risky to use much.
* Can be useful to tick throw into from some stuff, like a 5B, but is mostly too risky to use much.
* This is Daimon's only throw that side switches the opponent, so this can be worth going for if your back is to the corner.
* A counter DM that has followups if it connects. The counter box is a big rectangle surrounding Daimon's body from the knee-up. This will work against grounded or aerial mids and highs, but it loses to low attacks as the counter doesn't cover Daimon's knees and below.
* Has invincibility starting from frame 1 up until the counter comes out, so this can be used as a reversal, or even as an anti-air, although you will need to buffer the motion in advance as two half circles is too long to do the whole thing on reaction.
* A counter DM that has followups if it connects.
* The super flash only comes out if the counter was successful, so even if this move whiffed you won't get punished easily by the opponent if you weren't too close. You can use it at mid-range against a predicted mid poke or jump attack.
* MAX version does more damage.
* MAX version does more damage and comes out slightly faster than the Level 1 version.
Daimon is a classic big-body grappler, with plenty of scary mixups up close and some good normals to fight with in neutral. His pokes are large with some good hitboxes on them, and his anti-air game is also strong. He's also got a fast fullscreen unblockable that hits standing opponents that he can use to deal with fireballs. Up close, Daimon has access to a 1f command grab, a invincible command grab, an overhead, a low, and some strong pokes to pressure with. Daimon also has access to a command roll that lets him quickly get in for a mixup at shorter ranges. Daimon's main weaknesses are his big size and his lack of an invincible reversal.
Changelist
'98 to Ultimate Match
Normal Moves:
Rework - Tama Tsubushi ( + ) now hits overhead, but has reduced damage from 25 to 18
Nerf - Recovery of Guard Cancel Blowback increased
Nerf - Hurtbox added to f.B covering the hitbox
Nerf - Hurtbox of f.C increased in size
Nerf - Hurtbox of f.D increased in size
Nerf - Hurtbox added to j.D covering the hitbox
Nerf - First hitbox of Zujou Barai ( + ) reduced in size
Special Moves:
Nerf + Bug Fix - OTG bug from the light version of Jiraishin ( + ) fixed
Buff - Startup of the light version of Jiraishin ( + ) reduced from 28 to 20
cl.A: Good for stopping hops if you were too close for st.A. Whiffs on short crouchers. Chainable and cancelable.
cl.B: Decent for stopping hops or jump-outs, but it's too slow to be very useful. Whiffs on short crouchers. Cancelable.
cl.C: One of Daimon's main heavy combo buttons. It comes out fast and can be inputted as 63214C to buffer a combo into his command grabs. Cancelable.
cl.D: Another one of his good heavy combo buttons. Hits higher up than cl.C, so it can catch jump-outs too. Cancelable.
Standing
5A: Good anti-hop button. Whiffs on short crouchers.
5B: Decent longer-range standing low that can be used to set up his 214K mixups. Cancelable.
5C: Long-range poke. Occupies a lot of space in front of Daimon. Has a lot of active frames. Whiffs on short crouchers.
5D: Good preemptive anti-air, but has very little priority now, so it can trade easily. Whiffs on short crouchers.
Crouching
2A: Decent for blockstrings or to chain into from 5A. Cancelable.
2B: A low. You can link a hcb,f+P after it for a combo.
2C: Slow and not cancelable but a serviceable mid range poke for situations where 5C will whiff.
2D: A fast but short-range sweep. Cancelable.
Jumping
j.A: A good jump-in normal with a lot of active frames, making it a very consistent option. It's also his fastest air normal, so it's good for air-to-airs when you need to prioritize speed.
j.B: Has a crazy amount of active frames, making it a good air-to-air and jump-in. Can crossup.
j.C: An okay crossup button.
j.D: His best jump-in for damage. Generous hitbox and fast startup make this a solid space control button on top of its uses as a jump-in button.
CD Normals
5CD: Slow startup, but has a nice hitbox in front of Daimon. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
j.CD: Slow but has a decent hitbox in front of Daimon. Has a small blind spot close to him.
Throws
Drag-Down Slam:6/4C (very close)
Hold throw, not techable. Can be mashed for more damage. Daimon grabs the opponent in a chokehold and chokes them a couple of times. Causes a hard knockdown.
Crucifixion Press:6/4C
Regular throw, techable. Daimon picks the opponent up and slams them to the ground, causing the to slide on the ground. Causes a hard knockdown.
Sliding Foot Takedown:6/4D
Regular throw, techable. Daimon picks up the opponent and then sweeps their leg away while throwing them behind him. Causes a soft knockdown.
Command Moves
Ball Basher:6A
An overhead with fairly long range. Loses the overhead property when canceled into.
Good for mixups, especially when late-canceling into it, as this maintains its overhead property.
Causes a hard knockdown on hit.
Cranium Cruncher:3C
A good anti-air normal with a nice hitbox diagonally above Daimon.
Can also work as a close-range poke.
Can be cancelled into for combos and blockstrings.
On counterhit, you can juggle after it.
Special Moves
Minelayer:623A/C
Daimon pounds the ground so hard that it sends an instant shockwave fullscreen, causing standing opponents to fall down.
A version does the ground pound, which is a full screen attack that hits standing opponents. As it is not really a physical attack, it does not do any blockstun to crouching or airborne opponents.
C version is a feint you can use to make people jump at you so that you can anti-air them.
Great to use against fireball users, as they can't crouch while throwing a fireball and the pound recovers fast enough for Daimon to block the fireball if it still came out. Daimon crouches below some high-traveling fireballs as well.
Can also be used as a surprise fullscreen low attack if the opponent likes poking a lot.
Super Ukemi:214B/D
Daimon does a roll forwards.
B version only has a little bit of startup invincibility. D version is slower but has more invincibility.
Cannot/should not be used like a normal roll; instead, the idea is that you cancel pokes into it to quickly approach from neutral and set up Daimon's grab mixups.
Gets beaten out by mashing, so you may need to condition the opponent to not mash beforehand with frametraps.
Cloud Tosser:41236A
Daimon reaches up into the air and grabs, if he hits the opponent he slams them down to the ground.
A hitgrab, not an anti-air command grab.
A dedicated anti-jump tool to use when the opponent starts to jump out of your command grabs.
Can also work decently as an anti-air as it has a big hitbox with loads of priority. Daimon's hurtbox is actually at his waist when he does it, so his whole upper body is invincible.
Great for combos after a counterhit 3C, and other juggle situations.
Has a lot of recovery, so it's a guaranteed punish on block or whiff.
Stump Throw:41236C
Daimon grabs the opponent low to the ground and slams them down on the other side.
Another hitgrab, that also hits OTG.
Has low invincibility from the startup until the end of the active frames.
Has a lot of recovery, so it's a guaranteed punish on block or whiff.
Useful as an OTG ender to combos.
Super Ohsotogari:623B/D (close)
Daimon does a leg sweep on the opponent.
A slow command grab with invincibility on startup.
Good to beat people trying to mash at close range.
A core part of his close-range mixup game, as it will beat people trying to mash out from his 632146P.
Earth Mover:632146A/C (close)
Daimon throws the opponent into the air and lets them fall to the ground.
A 1-frame command grab.
The core of Daimon's mixups, combos, and close-range punishes.
Can act before opponent hits the ground allowing for Max Mode activations for extra damage, ground pounds to build meter, or a time to set up offense.
Root Countermaneuver:236B/D
Counters grounded mid and high attacks.
Becomes active on frame 3, so you can't reversal with it.
Can work as an anti-poke tool.
Reverse Drop:632146B/D
Daimon runs forwards and tries to grab the opponent. When in range, he grabs the opponent and slams them behind him, causing a hard knockdown.
Both B and D versions have Daimon running fullscreen when attempting the grab.
B version's grab comes out slower, but it has a lot of low invincibility while running. D version's grab comes out sooner but has no low invincibility while running.
If the opponent is not throwable, Daimon turns around for a bit, leaving him open for backturned combos.
Can be useful to tick throw into from some stuff, like a 5B, but is mostly too risky to use much.
This is Daimon's only throw that side switches the opponent, so this can be worth going for if your back is to the corner.
Desperation Moves
Heaven-to-Hell Drop:6321463214A/C (close)
Daimon picks the opponent up and repeatedly slams them into the ground.
A 1-frame command grab DM.
Useful for when you want higher damage mixups, combos, and close-range punishes.
MAX version does more damage.
Stormy Mountain Uprooter:4123641236B/D
A counter DM that has followups if it connects. The counter box is a big rectangle surrounding Daimon's body from the knee-up. This will work against grounded or aerial mids and highs, but it loses to low attacks as the counter doesn't cover Daimon's knees and below.
Has invincibility starting from frame 1 up until the counter comes out, so this can be used as a reversal, or even as an anti-air, although you will need to buffer the motion in advance as two half circles is too long to do the whole thing on reaction.
The super flash only comes out if the counter was successful, so even if this move whiffed you won't get punished easily by the opponent if you weren't too close. You can use it at mid-range against a predicted mid poke or jump attack.
MAX version does more damage and comes out slightly faster than the Level 1 version.
Super Stump Throw:41236B/D (during hcfx2+B/D)
Followup to 4123641236K. Only comes out if it connects.
Radical Reverse Throw:623B/D (during hcf+B/D after hcfx2+B/D)
Followup to 41236K followup.
Super Earth Mover:623B/D (during hcf+B/D after hcfx2+BD)
Followup to 41236K followup, exclusive to MAX version. Does more damage.
Combos
General Notes
In any metered combo, replace 63214632142+P with 6321463214AC if you have the resources.
Meterless
Low
2B > 632146P
Mid/Jump-In
(j.X) > cl.D/cl.C > 632146P
(j.X) > cl.D/cl.C > 3C > 632146P
Requires either a very close cl.C/cl.D connect or a very good jump-in angle.
Anti-Air
3C > 41236A
CH 3C > 66 > 3C > 41236A
Requires a counterhit 3C.
Overhead
6A > 41236C
With Meter
Low
2B > 6321463214P
You can do this as 63B > 21463214P to make it easier.
Mid/Jump-In
(j.X) > cl.C/cl.D > 6321463214P
You can do this as (j.X) > 63214C > 63214P for an easier cancel.
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