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Geese is primarily a mid-range poking character. This is due to the fact that he has one of the best special moves in the game in his qcf+C. It's a big close-range projectile that's safe on block, while also being kinda tricky to jump over. He also has a short-ranged air fireball that he can use to control a bit of the aerial space. Up close, Geese has access to a command grab that lets him mix up a bit, an invincible reversal and anti-air in his Raging Storm DM, and some counters that he can use to call out predictable offense or obvious jump-in attempts. His dominance of the close- and mid-range makes him a very effective character. | Geese is primarily a mid-range poking character. This is due to the fact that he has one of the best special moves in the game in his qcf+C. It's a big close-range projectile that's safe on block, while also being kinda tricky to jump over. He also has a short-ranged air fireball that he can use to control a bit of the aerial space. Up close, Geese has access to a command grab that lets him mix up a bit, an invincible reversal and anti-air in his Raging Storm DM, and some counters that he can use to call out predictable offense or obvious jump-in attempts. His dominance of the close- and mid-range makes him a very effective character. | ||
== Changes from | == Changes from Previous Versions == | ||
'''98UM to 98UMFE''' | '''98UM to 98UMFE''' | ||
Normals: | Normals: | ||
* f+B has less recovery, +2 on block | |||
* f+B has less recovery, is now +2 on block | |||
* cl.C no longer whiffs on short characters | * cl.C no longer whiffs on short characters | ||
Specials: | Specials: | ||
==Normal Moves== | * dp+A's descending attack is easier to connect against crouching opponents, has less recovery on landing | ||
== Normal Moves == | |||
'''Close''' | '''Close''' | ||
*cl. A: | |||
*cl. B: | * cl.A: Can be used to anti-air hops if you're too close for st.A to come out. Whiffs on regular crouchers. Chainable and cancelable. | ||
*cl. C: | |||
*cl. D: | * cl.B: His fastest normal, at 2f startup. Good to use in point-blank situations where the speed is important. Chainable and cancelable. | ||
* cl.C: Your go-to heavy button for combos. Cancelable. | |||
* cl.D: A two-hitting normal. Comes out fairly fast, but is not cancelable, so its use is limited. | |||
'''Stand''' | '''Stand''' | ||
*st. A: | |||
*st. B: | * st.A: Good for stopping hops. Whiffs on regular crouchers. Cancelable. | ||
*st. C: | |||
*st. D: | * st.B: A mid-range poke. It doesn't have very good priority. | ||
* st.C: A fast, slightly longer-range poke than st.B. Hits higher, but is not cancelable either. It does have decent priority. | |||
* st.D: Geese's longest-range normal. Has nice priority and range, but also quite a lot of recovery. | |||
'''Crouch''' | '''Crouch''' | ||
*cr. A: | |||
*cr. B: | * cr.A: A standard cr.A. Good for combos and blockstrings. Chainable and cancelable. | ||
*cr. C: An okay anti air normal for full jumps or predictable hops. It has 3 separate stages but only the third one is great for anti airs making it a bit inconsistent. Cancelable. | |||
*cr. D: | * cr.B: Hits low. Good for low combos and for blockstrings. Chainable. | ||
* cr.C: An okay anti-air normal for full jumps or predictable hops. It has 3 separate stages, but only the third one is great for anti-airs, making it a bit inconsistent. Cancelable. | |||
* cr.D: A nice cancelable sweep. | |||
'''Jump''' | '''Jump''' | ||
*j. A: | |||
*j. B: Nice crossup | * j.A: Good jump-in for when you want to have more consistency than j.C. Can crossup, but not as well as j.B. | ||
*j. C: | |||
* | * j.B: Nice crossup jump-in normal. Also his fastest jumping normal, so good for fast air-to-airs. | ||
*j. D: | |||
* j.C: A two-hitting jump-in, making it good for pressure and mixups. | |||
* nj.C: A straight downwards punch with a lot of active frames. | |||
* j.D: Air-to-air normal. | |||
'''Blowback''' | '''Blowback''' | ||
* st.CD: Has fairly long startup, but has a nice hitbox in front of Geese. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff. | |||
==Command | * j.CD: Good for blockstun pressure or anti-airs. You can land it on short crouchers, but it's tricky. | ||
'''Raikou Mawashi Geri:''' f+B | |||
* Doesn't combo from anything, not cancelable, | == Throws == | ||
'''Tate Katate Nage:''' <code>b/f+C/D</code> | |||
* Regular throw, techable. Geese's one normal throw. D version switches sides, C version does not, both leave the opponent facing you. | |||
== Command Moves == | |||
'''Raikou Mawashi Geri:''' <code>f+B</code> | |||
* Doesn't combo from anything, not cancelable, plus on block. | |||
'''Raimei Gouha Nage:''' <code>df+C (during opponent knockdown)</code> | |||
* OTG throw, only guaranteed off hcb+K but can be used after a number of moves if the opponent doesn't recovery roll (does not work after throw or Raging Storm). Switches sides, terrible recovery. | * OTG throw, only guaranteed off hcb+K but can be used after a number of moves if the opponent doesn't recovery roll (does not work after throw or Raging Storm). Switches sides, terrible recovery. | ||
==Special Moves== | == Special Moves == | ||
'''Reppuken:''' qcf+A | |||
* Geese does a single energy wave close to him. | '''Reppuken:''' <code>qcf+A</code> | ||
* Geese does a single energy wave close to him. Standard non-traveling projectile. | |||
* It's considered a projectile so it will destroy other projectiles. | * It's considered a projectile so it will destroy other projectiles. | ||
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* Combos from lights and heavies. | * Combos from lights and heavies. | ||
* | * Disadvantage on block. | ||
* There isn't much use for this move, since the C version is mostly just better. | |||
'''Double Reppuken:''' <code>qcf+C</code> | |||
* | * Geese does two big energy waves in front of him. Two-hit non-traveling projectile. | ||
* Combos from lights and heavies. | * Combos from lights and heavies. | ||
* | * Will destroy other projectiles. | ||
* Moves Geese forwards during the startup, and the hitbox of it is big so it makes for a good neutral poke. | |||
* Almost neutral on block (-1 or -2) with no pushback in the corner. | |||
* Susceptible to being guard cancel roll punished. | |||
* | * Extremely good space-control tool. | ||
'''Shippuken:''' <code>qcb+A/C (in air)</code> | |||
* | * Short-range air projectile. | ||
* Can't be done from a hop or step dash. | * Can't be done from a hop or step dash. | ||
* | * Gives enough frame advantage to combo afterwards if done late (there is a minimum height for it to come out though). | ||
* Only cancelable into from neutral j.C. | * Only cancelable into from neutral j.C. | ||
* | * Can be used to control some air space. | ||
'''Jaei Ken:''' <code>hcb+A/C</code> | |||
* Geese does a forwards lunging strike with 3 hits. | * Geese does a forwards lunging strike with 3 hits. | ||
* A version combos from heavy attacks. | * A version combos from heavy attacks. | ||
* C version | * C version has slower startup but better recovery. | ||
* | * Both versions are punishable on block. | ||
'''Hishou Nichiringan:''' <code>dp+A/C</code> | |||
* A version combos from lights, C version combos from heavy attacks. | * A version combos from lights, C version combos from heavy attacks. | ||
* | * Very punishable on block. | ||
* | * Extra good when using Extra mode meter, as Geese gets a strong Quick MAX combo with it in the corner. | ||
'''Joudan Atemi Nage:''' hcb+B | '''Joudan Atemi Nage:''' <code>hcb+B</code> | ||
* | * Counters jumping attacks and physical specials/DMs. | ||
* | * Afterwards, you can OTG with a df+C when in range. | ||
* Frame one active, so it can be used to counter jump-ins and safejump attempts very well. | |||
'''Chuudan Atemi Nage:''' <code>hcb+D</code> | |||
* Counters mid-level normals. | * Counters mid-level normals. | ||
* | * Afterwards, you can OTG with a df+C when in range. | ||
* Frame one active so can be used as a reversal against mid meaty strikes. | * Frame one active, so it can be used as a reversal against mid meaty strikes. | ||
* | * Also good for catching people trying to poke you in neutral on a read. | ||
* Can be used to beat CD counters if you know | * Can be used to beat CD counters if you know they're coming. | ||
'''Gedan Atemi Nage:''' hcf+B | '''Gedan Atemi Nage:''' <code>hcf+B</code> | ||
* Counters low attacks and sets up a juggle. | * Counters low attacks and sets up a juggle. | ||
* Can be | * Can be Quick MAXed. | ||
* | * Frame two active, so it will lose to low meaties. | ||
* | * Good to catch predictable sweep patterns with. | ||
'''Shinkuu Nage:''' hcb,f+ | '''Shinkuu Nage:''' <code>hcb,f+A/C</code> | ||
* Instant command throw with horrible recovery after it connects. Don't use this when you are too close to the corner as the opponent can combo you before you recover. | |||
* Instant command throw with horrible recovery after it connects. Don't use this when you are too close to the corner, as the opponent can combo you before you recover. | |||
== Desperation Moves == | |||
'''Raging Storm:''' <code>db,hcb,df+A/C</code> | |||
* Combos from lights and heavies. | * Combos from lights and heavies. | ||
* | * Full invincibility at startup. | ||
* The | * The hitbox absorbs normal and some DM projectiles. | ||
* Can juggle after if it hits really late. | * Can juggle after if it hits really late. | ||
* | * Punishable on block. | ||
'''Deadly Rave:''' <code>qcf,hcb+A/C</code> | |||
* Combos from lights and heavies. | * Combos from lights and heavies. | ||
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* Does slightly less damage than Raging Storm. | * Does slightly less damage than Raging Storm. | ||
==Combos== | == Combos == | ||
==== | |||
'''General Notes''' | |||
===Meterless=== | |||
'''Low''' | |||
: <code>cr.B, cr.A, cr.A, st.B</code> | |||
: <code>cr.B, cr.A, (cr.A), qcf+C</code> | |||
: Can add another cr.A, but the second slash will whiff unless in the corner. | |||
: <code>cr.B, cr.A, hcb,f+P</code> | |||
'''Mid/Jump-In''' | |||
: <code>(j.B/j.C), cl.C, dp+C/hcb+A<code> | |||
: dp+C does more damage and creates better oki, but it will whiff if the previous part pushed back too far (e.g. MAX mode, poor jump angle). | |||
'''Other''' | |||
: <code>hcf+B, j.CD</code> | |||
'''Corner''' | |||
: <code>hcf+B, dp+P</code> | |||
: <code>hcb+C, cl.C/cr.C/cl.B/cl.D</code> | |||
: <code>st.CD, cl.C</code> | |||
: Counterhit conversion from st.CD. | |||
===With Meter=== | |||
'''Low''' | |||
: <code>cr.B, cr.A, (cr.A/st.A), db,hcb,df+P/qcf,hcb+P</code> | |||
'''Mid/Jump-In''' | |||
: <code>(j.B/j.C), cl.C, db,hcb,df+P/qcf,hcb+P</code> | |||
'''Other''' | |||
: <code>hcf+B, qcf,hcb+P</code> | |||
: <code>f+B, AB, qcf,hcb+P</code> | |||
: Requires Extra mode dodge. | |||
: <code>cl.D [1 hit], AB, hcb,f+P</code> | |||
: Requires Advanced mode roll. | |||
'''Corner''' | |||
: <code>hcf+B, db,hcb,df+P</code> | |||
: <code>st.CD, qcf,hcb+P</code> | |||
: Counterhit conversion from st.CD. | |||
: <code>j.CD, qcf,hcb+P</code> | |||
: Counterhit conversion from j.CD. | |||
=== With Quick MAX=== | |||
'''Low''' | |||
: <code>cr.B, (cr.A), ABC, cl.C/cr.C, hcb+A/qcf,hcb+P</code> | |||
: Requires a microwalk if the cr.A is included. | |||
: <code>cr.B, cr.A, cr.A/st.A, ABC, st.C/cr.D</code> | |||
'''Corner''' | |||
: <code>(j.B/j.C), cl.C, dp+C, ABC, dp+A/db,hcb,df+P</code> | |||
: <code>cr.B, cr.A, dp+A, ABC, db,hcb,df+P/qcf,hcb+P</code> | |||
: <code>hcb+C, ABC, dp+A/db,hcb,df+P/qcf,hcb+P</code> | |||
: <code>hcf+B, dp+C, ABC, db,hcb,df+P/qcf,hcb+P</code> | |||
== Strategy & Tips == | == Strategy & Tips == |
Revision as of 04:33, 23 October 2021
Introduction
Geese is primarily a mid-range poking character. This is due to the fact that he has one of the best special moves in the game in his qcf+C. It's a big close-range projectile that's safe on block, while also being kinda tricky to jump over. He also has a short-ranged air fireball that he can use to control a bit of the aerial space. Up close, Geese has access to a command grab that lets him mix up a bit, an invincible reversal and anti-air in his Raging Storm DM, and some counters that he can use to call out predictable offense or obvious jump-in attempts. His dominance of the close- and mid-range makes him a very effective character.
Changes from Previous Versions
98UM to 98UMFE
Normals:
- f+B has less recovery, is now +2 on block
- cl.C no longer whiffs on short characters
Specials:
- dp+A's descending attack is easier to connect against crouching opponents, has less recovery on landing
Normal Moves
Close
- cl.A: Can be used to anti-air hops if you're too close for st.A to come out. Whiffs on regular crouchers. Chainable and cancelable.
- cl.B: His fastest normal, at 2f startup. Good to use in point-blank situations where the speed is important. Chainable and cancelable.
- cl.C: Your go-to heavy button for combos. Cancelable.
- cl.D: A two-hitting normal. Comes out fairly fast, but is not cancelable, so its use is limited.
Stand
- st.A: Good for stopping hops. Whiffs on regular crouchers. Cancelable.
- st.B: A mid-range poke. It doesn't have very good priority.
- st.C: A fast, slightly longer-range poke than st.B. Hits higher, but is not cancelable either. It does have decent priority.
- st.D: Geese's longest-range normal. Has nice priority and range, but also quite a lot of recovery.
Crouch
- cr.A: A standard cr.A. Good for combos and blockstrings. Chainable and cancelable.
- cr.B: Hits low. Good for low combos and for blockstrings. Chainable.
- cr.C: An okay anti-air normal for full jumps or predictable hops. It has 3 separate stages, but only the third one is great for anti-airs, making it a bit inconsistent. Cancelable.
- cr.D: A nice cancelable sweep.
Jump
- j.A: Good jump-in for when you want to have more consistency than j.C. Can crossup, but not as well as j.B.
- j.B: Nice crossup jump-in normal. Also his fastest jumping normal, so good for fast air-to-airs.
- j.C: A two-hitting jump-in, making it good for pressure and mixups.
- nj.C: A straight downwards punch with a lot of active frames.
- j.D: Air-to-air normal.
Blowback
- st.CD: Has fairly long startup, but has a nice hitbox in front of Geese. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
- j.CD: Good for blockstun pressure or anti-airs. You can land it on short crouchers, but it's tricky.
Throws
Tate Katate Nage: b/f+C/D
- Regular throw, techable. Geese's one normal throw. D version switches sides, C version does not, both leave the opponent facing you.
Command Moves
Raikou Mawashi Geri: f+B
- Doesn't combo from anything, not cancelable, plus on block.
Raimei Gouha Nage: df+C (during opponent knockdown)
- OTG throw, only guaranteed off hcb+K but can be used after a number of moves if the opponent doesn't recovery roll (does not work after throw or Raging Storm). Switches sides, terrible recovery.
Special Moves
Reppuken: qcf+A
- Geese does a single energy wave close to him. Standard non-traveling projectile.
- It's considered a projectile so it will destroy other projectiles.
- Combos from lights and heavies.
- Disadvantage on block.
- There isn't much use for this move, since the C version is mostly just better.
Double Reppuken: qcf+C
- Geese does two big energy waves in front of him. Two-hit non-traveling projectile.
- Combos from lights and heavies.
- Will destroy other projectiles.
- Moves Geese forwards during the startup, and the hitbox of it is big so it makes for a good neutral poke.
- Almost neutral on block (-1 or -2) with no pushback in the corner.
- Susceptible to being guard cancel roll punished.
- Extremely good space-control tool.
Shippuken: qcb+A/C (in air)
- Short-range air projectile.
- Can't be done from a hop or step dash.
- Gives enough frame advantage to combo afterwards if done late (there is a minimum height for it to come out though).
- Only cancelable into from neutral j.C.
- Can be used to control some air space.
Jaei Ken: hcb+A/C
- Geese does a forwards lunging strike with 3 hits.
- A version combos from heavy attacks.
- C version has slower startup but better recovery.
- Both versions are punishable on block.
Hishou Nichiringan: dp+A/C
- A version combos from lights, C version combos from heavy attacks.
- Very punishable on block.
- Extra good when using Extra mode meter, as Geese gets a strong Quick MAX combo with it in the corner.
Joudan Atemi Nage: hcb+B
- Counters jumping attacks and physical specials/DMs.
- Afterwards, you can OTG with a df+C when in range.
- Frame one active, so it can be used to counter jump-ins and safejump attempts very well.
Chuudan Atemi Nage: hcb+D
- Counters mid-level normals.
- Afterwards, you can OTG with a df+C when in range.
- Frame one active, so it can be used as a reversal against mid meaty strikes.
- Also good for catching people trying to poke you in neutral on a read.
- Can be used to beat CD counters if you know they're coming.
Gedan Atemi Nage: hcf+B
- Counters low attacks and sets up a juggle.
- Can be Quick MAXed.
- Frame two active, so it will lose to low meaties.
- Good to catch predictable sweep patterns with.
Shinkuu Nage: hcb,f+A/C
- Instant command throw with horrible recovery after it connects. Don't use this when you are too close to the corner, as the opponent can combo you before you recover.
Desperation Moves
Raging Storm: db,hcb,df+A/C
- Combos from lights and heavies.
- Full invincibility at startup.
- The hitbox absorbs normal and some DM projectiles.
- Can juggle after if it hits really late.
- Punishable on block.
Deadly Rave: qcf,hcb+A/C
- Combos from lights and heavies.
- C version travels fullscreen.
- Does slightly less damage than Raging Storm.
Combos
General Notes
Meterless
Low
cr.B, cr.A, cr.A, st.B
cr.B, cr.A, (cr.A), qcf+C
- Can add another cr.A, but the second slash will whiff unless in the corner.
cr.B, cr.A, hcb,f+P
Mid/Jump-In
(j.B/j.C), cl.C, dp+C/hcb+A
- dp+C does more damage and creates better oki, but it will whiff if the previous part pushed back too far (e.g. MAX mode, poor jump angle).
Other
hcf+B, j.CD
Corner
hcf+B, dp+P
hcb+C, cl.C/cr.C/cl.B/cl.D
st.CD, cl.C
- Counterhit conversion from st.CD.
With Meter
Low
cr.B, cr.A, (cr.A/st.A), db,hcb,df+P/qcf,hcb+P
Mid/Jump-In
(j.B/j.C), cl.C, db,hcb,df+P/qcf,hcb+P
Other
hcf+B, qcf,hcb+P
f+B, AB, qcf,hcb+P
- Requires Extra mode dodge.
cl.D [1 hit], AB, hcb,f+P
- Requires Advanced mode roll.
Corner
hcf+B, db,hcb,df+P
st.CD, qcf,hcb+P
- Counterhit conversion from st.CD.
j.CD, qcf,hcb+P
- Counterhit conversion from j.CD.
With Quick MAX
Low
cr.B, (cr.A), ABC, cl.C/cr.C, hcb+A/qcf,hcb+P
- Requires a microwalk if the cr.A is included.
cr.B, cr.A, cr.A/st.A, ABC, st.C/cr.D
Corner
(j.B/j.C), cl.C, dp+C, ABC, dp+A/db,hcb,df+P
cr.B, cr.A, dp+A, ABC, db,hcb,df+P/qcf,hcb+P
hcb+C, ABC, dp+A/db,hcb,df+P/qcf,hcb+P
hcf+B, dp+C, ABC, db,hcb,df+P/qcf,hcb+P
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