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'''Notation'''
[[image:a.gif]] - Light Punch
[[image:b.gif]] - Light Kick
[[image:c.gif]] - Heavy Punch
[[image:d.gif]] - Heavy Kick
'''Throws'''
Issetsu Seoi Nage - ''(close)'' [[image:bk.gif]] / [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:c.gif]]
Hikiri Tsuchi - ''(close)'' [[image:bk.gif]] / [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:d.gif]]
'''Command Normals'''
Ge-Shiki Gou Tsui - [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]]
Ge-Shiki Kubu Tsuchi - [[image:fd.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]]
'''Special Moves'''
108 Shiki Yami Barai - [[image:qcf.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]
100 Shiki Oniyaki - [[image:dp.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]
427 Shiki Kamukakari - [[image:hcb.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] / [[image:d.gif]]
110 Shiki Nata Guruma - [[image:dp.gif]] + [[image:b.gif]] / [[image:d.gif]]
720 Shiki Homuragasane 1 - [[image:qcb.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]
: ┗ 720 Shiki Homuragasane 2 - [[image:qcb.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]
'''Desperation Moves'''
Ura 108 Shiki Orochinagi - [[image:qcb.gif]][[image:hcf.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]
1207 Shiki Tsumugari - [[image:qcf.gif]][[image:qcf.gif]] + [[image:a.gif]] / [[image:c.gif]]


== Introduction ==
== Introduction ==
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Normals:
Normals:


* cl.C's activation range has been reduced, it can still be linked from a cl.A or cr.A
* cl.C's activation range has been reduced, it can still be linked from a cl.A or 2A


* st.B now has 3 more active frames
* 5B now has 3 more active frames


* f+A how has 2 frames less startup
* Ge-Shiki Gou Tsui (6A) how has 2 frames less startup


Specials:
Specials:


* qcf+P now has 3 frames less recovery
* 108 Shiki Yami Barai (236P) now has 3 frames less recovery


* hcb+B now has 2 frames less startup, now connects from heavies and f+A
* Light 427 Shiki Kamukakari (63214B) now has 2 frames less startup, now connects from heavies and f+A


* qcb+A now has 2 frames less startup, you can follow up after the second hit now
* Light 720 Shiki Homuragasane 1 (214A) now has 2 frames less startup.
 
* You can now juggle from the A version of 720 Shiki Homuragasane (214A)'s second hit.


Supers:
Supers:


* qcfx2+P now has less startup; both A and MAX versions have 5 frames less startup and can now connect from lights
* 1207 Shiki Tsumugari (236236P) now has less startup; both A and MAX versions have 5 frames less startup and can now connect from lights.


* qcfx2+C now has invincibility during the first active frame as well
* Heavy 1207 Shiki Tsumugari (236236C) is now invulnerable until after the first active frame.


'''98UM to 98UMFE'''
'''98UM to 98UMFE'''
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Specials:
Specials:


* dp+B's second hit now has a larger hitbox, so it shouldn't whiff if the first connects
* Light 110 Shiki Nata Guruma (623B)'s second hit now has a larger hitbox, so it shouldn't whiff if the first connects


* hcb+K now has less recovery, second hit should be easier to connect if the first connects
* 427 Shiki Kamukakari (63214K) now has less recovery, second hit should be easier to connect if the first connects


* qcb+P's first hit now has a bigger hitbox and less recovery
* 720 Shiki Homuragasane 1 (214P)'s first hit now has a bigger hitbox and less recovery


Supers:
Supers:


* qcfx2+P's A and MAX versions have faster startup
* 1207 Shiki Tsumugari (236236P)'s A and MAX versions have faster startup


== Normal Moves ==
== Normal Moves ==
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* cl.B: Use cr.A instead for more reliable range and same combo potential. Cancelable.
* cl.B: Use cr.A instead for more reliable range and same combo potential. Cancelable.


* cl.C: 2f start up, 2 hits, both cancelable. Can link from cr.B. Your heavy normal for combos.
* cl.C: 2f start up, 2 hits, both cancelable. Can link from 2B. Your heavy normal for combos.


* cl.D: Same as st.D.
* cl.D: Same as 5D.


'''Standing'''
'''Standing'''


* st.A: Crappy range, can stop hops from close up but no other use for it really. Chainable.
* 5A: Crappy range, can stop hops from close up but no other use for it really. Chainable.


* st.B: Farthest range of his normals. Good as a poke. Combos after cr.B.
* 5B: Farthest range of his normals. Good as a poke. Combos after 2B.


* st.C: Cancelable, but slow and crappy range and whiffs on crouchers. Rarely useful.
* 5C: Cancelable, but slow and crappy range and whiffs on crouchers. Rarely useful.


* st.D: Can work as anti-air against hops, but dp+P is much more reliable.
* 5D: Can work as anti-air against hops, but 623P is much more reliable.


'''Crouching'''
'''Crouching'''


* cr.A: Fast and good range for a cr.A. Use this in confirms and blockstrings after cr.B and as a short poke. Chainable and cancelable.
* 2A: Fast and good range for a 2A. Use this in confirms and blockstrings after 2B and as a short poke. Chainable and cancelable.


* cr.B: Low combo starter. Links into cl.C. Chainable.
* 2B: Low combo starter. Links into cl.C. Chainable.


* cr.C: Not a reliable anti-air. Can be used in punish or combo situations when too far away for cl.C. Cancelable.
* 2C: Not a reliable anti-air. Can be used in punish or combo situations when too far away for cl.C. Cancelable.


* cr.D: Cancelable sweep. Not bad at what it does.
* 2D: Cancelable sweep. Not bad at what it does.


'''Jumping'''
'''Jumping'''
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'''CD Normals'''
'''CD Normals'''


* st.CD: Quite fast, enough range to hit after some light-button blockstrings. Saisyu has good safe options to fish for counterhit combos with this. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
* 5CD: Quite fast, enough range to hit after some light-button blockstrings. Saisyu has good safe options to fish for counterhit combos with this. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.


* j.CD: Great move. Often wins against other good moves and anti-airs thanks to good hitbox. Good for fishing counterhit combos just like regular CD.
* j.CD: Great move. Often wins against other good moves and anti-airs thanks to good hitbox. Good for fishing counterhit combos just like regular CD.
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== Throws ==
== Throws ==


'''Flaming Hammer:''' <code>b/f+C (close)</code>
'''Issetsu Seoi Nage:''' <code>4/6C (close)</code>
 
* Regular throw, techable.
 
* Does not switch sides.
 
* Hard knockdown.
 
'''Hikiri Tsuchi:''' <code>4/6D (close)</code>
 
* Regular throw, techable.
 
* Goes fullscreen and switches sides.


'''Swift Shoulder Throw:''' <code>b/f+D (close)</code>
* Backturned hard knockdown, but okizeme is only possible in the corner.


== Command Moves ==
== Command Moves ==


'''Thundering Hammer:''' <code>f+A</code>
'''Ge-Shiki Gou Tsui:''' <code>6A</code>


* Hits overhead when done on its own.
* Hits overhead when done on its own.
* No overhead but cancelable when cancelled into. Acts as heavy normal for the purpose of comboing.
* No overhead but cancelable when cancelled into. Acts as heavy normal for the purpose of comboing.
* Combos from cl.C and true blockstring. Safe on block.
* Combos from cl.C and true blockstring. Safe on block.


 
'''Ge-Shiki Kubu Tsuchi:''' <code>6B</code>
'''Cranium Press:''' <code>f+B</code>


* Plus on block, but combos from nothing. You can link into a variety of moves on hit.
* Plus on block, but combos from nothing. You can link into a variety of moves on hit.
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== Special Moves ==
== Special Moves ==


'''Dark Thrust:''' <code>qcf+A/C</code>
'''108 Shiki Yami Barai:''' <code>236A/C</code>


* Ground traveling projectile. Not great but serves its purpose if used with care.
* Ground traveling projectile. Not great but serves its purpose if used with care.


 
'''100 Shiki Oniyaki:''' <code>dp+A/C</code>
'''Fire Ball:''' <code>dp+A/C</code>


* Saisyu's DP. Good reversal and reliable anti air especially C version. Both versions are very unsafe.
* Saisyu's DP. Good reversal and reliable anti air especially C version. Both versions are very unsafe.


 
'''427 Shiki Kamukakari:''' <code>63214B/D</code>
'''Divine Demolisher:''' <code>hcb+B/D</code>


* Very slow overhead move. Not recommended. Punishable on block.
* Very slow overhead move. Not recommended. Punishable on block.


'''110 Shiki Nata Guruma:''' <code>623B/D</code>


'''Hit Hatchet:''' <code>dp+B/D</code>
* B version combos from 2A, D only combos from heavy buttons.
 
* B version combos from cr.A, D only combos from heavy buttons.


* Very nice go-to combo move that causes a hard knockdown and has decent damage.
* Very nice go-to combo move that causes a hard knockdown and has decent damage.
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* B version is a good meterless raw punish tool, more horizontal range than DP. Unsafe on block.
* B version is a good meterless raw punish tool, more horizontal range than DP. Unsafe on block.


'''720 Shiki Homuragasane:''' <code>214A/C (x2)</code>


'''Fusillade of Flame:''' <code>qcb+A/C (x2)</code>
* Saisyu's rekka. Combos from heavy buttons. A version combos into 623C. Best meterless damage but only soft knockdown. Unsafe on block.
 
* Saisyu's rekka. Combos from heavy buttons. A version combos into dp+C. Best meterless damage but only soft knockdown. Unsafe on block.


== Desperation Moves ==
== Desperation Moves ==


'''Serpent Wave:''' <code>qcb,hcf+A/C (can be held)</code>
'''Ura 108 Shiki Orochinagi:''' <code>2141236A/C (can be held)</code>


* A/C versions are identical. Combos from heavy buttons. Deals more damage than qcfx2+A/C. Safe on block.
* A/C versions are identical. Combos from heavy buttons. Deals more damage than qcfx2+A/C. Safe on block.
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* SDM deals even more damage and still more than qcfx2+AC. Plus on block.
* SDM deals even more damage and still more than qcfx2+AC. Plus on block.


* Best Orochinagi archetype DM in the game
* Best Orochinagi in the game.


'''1207 Shiki Tsumugari:''' <code>236236A/C</code>


'''Annihilating Slicer:''' <code>qcfx2+A/C</code>
* A version has very fast startup. Combos from 2A and 6B. Can punish almost anything unsafe. One of the best raw super punishes in the game.
 
* A version has very fast startup. Combos from cr.A and f+B. Can punish almost anything unsafe. One of the best raw super punishes in the game.


* C version is slower than A but has lots of invul and more range. Useful as a counter in situations where invul and range matter more than speed.  
* C version is slower than A but has lots of invul and more range. Useful as a counter in situations where invul and range matter more than speed.  


* SDM is like the A version but deals more damage. Combos from cr.A/f+B and is just as fast but no invul.
* SDM is like the A version but deals more damage. Combos from 2A/6B and is just as fast but no invul.


== Combos ==
== Combos ==
'''General Notes'''


=== Meterless ===
=== Meterless ===
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''Low''
''Low''


: <code>cr.B, cr.A, dp+B</code>
: <code>2B, 2A, 623B</code>
: Basic low confirm, might whiff at max range cr.A.
: Basic low confirm.


: <code>cr.B, cl.C(1), f+A, dp+D</code>:
: <code>2B, cl.C(1), 6A, 623D</code>:
: Low starter frame link.
: Low starter frame link.


''Mid/Jump-In''
''Mid/Jump-In''


: <code>(j.X), cl.C(1), f+A, dp+D</code>
: <code>(j.X), cl.C(1), 6A, 623D</code>
: Your go-to heavy starter.
: Your go-to heavy starter.


: <code>f+B, st.B/dp+B</code>
: <code>6B, 5B/623B</code>


=== With Meter ===
=== With Meter ===


: <code>cr.B, cr.A, qcfx+P</code>
: <code>2B, 2A, 236236P</code>
: Low confirm into DM.
: Low confirm into DM.


: <code>cl.C, f+A, qcb,hcf+P</code>
: <code>(j.X), cl.C(1), 6A, 2141236P</code>


: <code>cr.B, cl.C(1), f+A, qcb,hcf+P</code>:
: <code>2B, cl.C(1), 6A, 2141236P</code>:
: Low frame link into super.
: Low frame link into super.


: <code>f+B, qcfx2+P</code>
: <code>6B, 236236P</code>


=== With Quick MAX ===
=== With Quick MAX ===


: <code>cr.B, ABC, cl.C, f+A, qcb,hcf+P</code>
: <code>2B, ABC, cl.C, 6A, 2141236P</code>


: <code>f+B, ABC, st.C, qcb,hcf+P</code>
: <code>6B, ABC, 5C, 2141236P</code>
: Quick MAX on 6B is incredibly tight.


: <code>cr.B, cl.C(1), f+A, qcb+A, qcb+A, ABC, qcb,hcf+P</code>
: <code>2B, cl.C(1), 6A, 214A > 214A, ABC, 2141236P</code>
: Best combo.
: Saisyu's highest damage.


== Strategy & Tips ==
== Strategy & Tips ==
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Revision as of 23:23, 4 February 2024

The King of Fighters '98 UMFE

OverviewStrategyDataCombosReplaysMatchups


Notation

- Light Punch

- Light Kick

- Heavy Punch

- Heavy Kick

Throws

Issetsu Seoi Nage - (close) / +

Hikiri Tsuchi - (close) / +

Command Normals

Ge-Shiki Gou Tsui - +

Ge-Shiki Kubu Tsuchi - +

Special Moves

108 Shiki Yami Barai - + /

100 Shiki Oniyaki - + /

427 Shiki Kamukakari - + /

110 Shiki Nata Guruma - + /

720 Shiki Homuragasane 1 - + /

┗ 720 Shiki Homuragasane 2 - + /

Desperation Moves

Ura 108 Shiki Orochinagi - + /

1207 Shiki Tsumugari - + /

Introduction

Saisyu has great offensive tools to stay close to the opponent and confirm into big metered damage or a meterless hard-knockdown. Alternatively, he can zone out the opponent with his ground-traveling fireball and a strong anti-air DP. His weakness definitely lies in his mostly short-ranged normals, which often cannot compete with the opponents' in neutral. Saisyu has to make up for this deficit with good positioning, so he can use his great jump-in normals to get in and start his pressure game.

Changes from Previous Versions

98 to 98UM

Normals:

  • cl.C's activation range has been reduced, it can still be linked from a cl.A or 2A
  • 5B now has 3 more active frames
  • Ge-Shiki Gou Tsui (6A) how has 2 frames less startup

Specials:

  • 108 Shiki Yami Barai (236P) now has 3 frames less recovery
  • Light 427 Shiki Kamukakari (63214B) now has 2 frames less startup, now connects from heavies and f+A
  • Light 720 Shiki Homuragasane 1 (214A) now has 2 frames less startup.
  • You can now juggle from the A version of 720 Shiki Homuragasane (214A)'s second hit.

Supers:

  • 1207 Shiki Tsumugari (236236P) now has less startup; both A and MAX versions have 5 frames less startup and can now connect from lights.
  • Heavy 1207 Shiki Tsumugari (236236C) is now invulnerable until after the first active frame.

98UM to 98UMFE

Specials:

  • Light 110 Shiki Nata Guruma (623B)'s second hit now has a larger hitbox, so it shouldn't whiff if the first connects
  • 427 Shiki Kamukakari (63214K) now has less recovery, second hit should be easier to connect if the first connects
  • 720 Shiki Homuragasane 1 (214P)'s first hit now has a bigger hitbox and less recovery

Supers:

  • 1207 Shiki Tsumugari (236236P)'s A and MAX versions have faster startup

Normal Moves

Close

  • cl.A: Can stop hops, otherwise useless. Chainable and cancelable.
  • cl.B: Use cr.A instead for more reliable range and same combo potential. Cancelable.
  • cl.C: 2f start up, 2 hits, both cancelable. Can link from 2B. Your heavy normal for combos.
  • cl.D: Same as 5D.

Standing

  • 5A: Crappy range, can stop hops from close up but no other use for it really. Chainable.
  • 5B: Farthest range of his normals. Good as a poke. Combos after 2B.
  • 5C: Cancelable, but slow and crappy range and whiffs on crouchers. Rarely useful.
  • 5D: Can work as anti-air against hops, but 623P is much more reliable.

Crouching

  • 2A: Fast and good range for a 2A. Use this in confirms and blockstrings after 2B and as a short poke. Chainable and cancelable.
  • 2B: Low combo starter. Links into cl.C. Chainable.
  • 2C: Not a reliable anti-air. Can be used in punish or combo situations when too far away for cl.C. Cancelable.
  • 2D: Cancelable sweep. Not bad at what it does.

Jumping

  • j.A: Nice air-to-air.
  • j.B: Typical Kusanagi knee. Often beats weaker anti-airs and air normals, and can crossup without much hassle. VERY GOOD.
  • j.C: Decent jump-in, but nothing special about it. Use this on characters j.D might whiff on.
  • j.D: Most damaging jump button (except for j.CD). Usually used for air zoning out of a hop. Can whiff on small crouchers and low-profile moves.

CD Normals

  • 5CD: Quite fast, enough range to hit after some light-button blockstrings. Saisyu has good safe options to fish for counterhit combos with this. Cancelable on hit, block, and whiff.
  • j.CD: Great move. Often wins against other good moves and anti-airs thanks to good hitbox. Good for fishing counterhit combos just like regular CD.

Throws

Issetsu Seoi Nage: 4/6C (close)

  • Regular throw, techable.
  • Does not switch sides.
  • Hard knockdown.

Hikiri Tsuchi: 4/6D (close)

  • Regular throw, techable.
  • Goes fullscreen and switches sides.
  • Backturned hard knockdown, but okizeme is only possible in the corner.

Command Moves

Ge-Shiki Gou Tsui: 6A

  • Hits overhead when done on its own.
  • No overhead but cancelable when cancelled into. Acts as heavy normal for the purpose of comboing.
  • Combos from cl.C and true blockstring. Safe on block.

Ge-Shiki Kubu Tsuchi: 6B

  • Plus on block, but combos from nothing. You can link into a variety of moves on hit.
  • Mostly exists to extend your offense with plus frames, can be interrupted since it's not a true block string.

Special Moves

108 Shiki Yami Barai: 236A/C

  • Ground traveling projectile. Not great but serves its purpose if used with care.

100 Shiki Oniyaki: dp+A/C

  • Saisyu's DP. Good reversal and reliable anti air especially C version. Both versions are very unsafe.

427 Shiki Kamukakari: 63214B/D

  • Very slow overhead move. Not recommended. Punishable on block.

110 Shiki Nata Guruma: 623B/D

  • B version combos from 2A, D only combos from heavy buttons.
  • Very nice go-to combo move that causes a hard knockdown and has decent damage.
  • B version is a good meterless raw punish tool, more horizontal range than DP. Unsafe on block.

720 Shiki Homuragasane: 214A/C (x2)

  • Saisyu's rekka. Combos from heavy buttons. A version combos into 623C. Best meterless damage but only soft knockdown. Unsafe on block.

Desperation Moves

Ura 108 Shiki Orochinagi: 2141236A/C (can be held)

  • A/C versions are identical. Combos from heavy buttons. Deals more damage than qcfx2+A/C. Safe on block.
  • SDM deals even more damage and still more than qcfx2+AC. Plus on block.
  • Best Orochinagi in the game.

1207 Shiki Tsumugari: 236236A/C

  • A version has very fast startup. Combos from 2A and 6B. Can punish almost anything unsafe. One of the best raw super punishes in the game.
  • C version is slower than A but has lots of invul and more range. Useful as a counter in situations where invul and range matter more than speed.
  • SDM is like the A version but deals more damage. Combos from 2A/6B and is just as fast but no invul.

Combos

Meterless

Low

2B, 2A, 623B
Basic low confirm.
2B, cl.C(1), 6A, 623D:
Low starter frame link.

Mid/Jump-In

(j.X), cl.C(1), 6A, 623D
Your go-to heavy starter.
6B, 5B/623B

With Meter

2B, 2A, 236236P
Low confirm into DM.
(j.X), cl.C(1), 6A, 2141236P
2B, cl.C(1), 6A, 2141236P:
Low frame link into super.
6B, 236236P

With Quick MAX

2B, ABC, cl.C, 6A, 2141236P
6B, ABC, 5C, 2141236P
Quick MAX on 6B is incredibly tight.
2B, cl.C(1), 6A, 214A > 214A, ABC, 2141236P
Saisyu's highest damage.

Strategy & Tips

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